Lawyers are paid to make the ridiculous sound reasonable, so life's too short to be spending too much of it pointing out examples.
But let's burn a little of my remaining earthly time this morning ... because this steaming pile of flapdoodle from a Texas attorney suing MySpace makes the ridiculous sound, well, quick, somebody find me a word that's more ridiculous than ridiculous.
From today's San Francisco Chronicle:
Four families whose underage daughters were sexually abused after meeting people they encountered on the social networking site MySpace have sued News Corp., the site's parent company, alleging it was negligent in not creating safety measures to protect younger users.
In separate suits filed this week in Los Angeles Superior Court, an attorney for the families said the virtual site is like a day care facility or a restaurant that didn't adequately protect its customers.
"These virtual sites are no different," said Jason Itkin, a Houston attorney representing the families. "MySpace has not taken the steps necessary to protect its customers."
Let's skip right past the obvious points that there have been sexual predators since the beginning of time, they don't need no stinking Internet to find victims, and if your son or daughter is out in parts unknown meeting up with complete strangers, go look in the mirror to see who's primarily responsible.
No, I want to focus in on the daycare thing: According to Mr. Itkin, there is no difference between a daycare center and "these virtual sites" such as MySpace.
No difference. None. Zip. Nada.
Now I don't want to fall back on the obvious here and point out that one difference is that a daycare center is generally housed in a physical building with a few staff members and a number of kiddies so small that you can count them, whereas MySpace is housed -- well, everywhere on the planet -- and serves a clientele that is just a wee bit bigger. From Wikipedia: "With the 100 millionth account being created on August 9, 2006 and a news story claiming 106 million accounts on September 8, 2006, the site reportedly attracts new registrations at a rate of 230,000 per day."
I want the diaper concession at any daycare center serving that kind of crowd.
But, let's be fair, Mr. Itkin is a learned fellow (you can go read of his academic and professional achievements), so it's reasonable to presume that his "no difference" point was in relation to the responsibility held by both a daycare center and a virtual community to protect children.
Oh, in that case, well, the man has a ... he has another steaming pile of flapdoodle.
Of course a daycare center is responsible for making sure it hasn't hired a sexual predator and for providing enough on-site supervision to ensure that that an employee does not take up child molestation for the first time while on the clock. Nary a reasonable person would disagree.
The virtual site with 100 million users located in every corner of the globe? That "place" where the only interpersonal interactions possible are of the virtual variety. There may well be disagreement among the reasonable as to how much responsibility such a site bears for any crimes committed back in the physical world over which it has absolutely zero jurisdiction.
Here's the only way you're going to assure that there are no sexual predators MySpace: Shut it down. (Fear not, MySpace fans, politicians don't read this far down.)
Hmmm, not bad, that probably took about a half-hour. Now I can get on with my life.
Paul 1 Lawyers 0
I have to agree with you Paul. It's very silly to blame myspace in total for children getting lured into these situations. I will say that yes they could put in more measures to help prevent this, but if you even have half a brain you would realize that a page saying you must be X age to join won't help because it is so easy to click the yes button. Parents these days just would rather blame someone else for their problems than themselves for not monitoring their children close enough to prevent this type of thing from happening. I mean if you have a teenage daughter and just let her go wandering off into the night to meet people, I think you have some parenting issues.
Agree with the Bad Parenting
Come on now, isn’t it the parents’ responsibility to ensure their children’s safety? If the parents provided better education about online safety/security to their children and spent more time monitoring their children’s activities, then perhaps these types of situations can be avoided. People should consider if this is a case of bad parenting, and not so easily point fingers at the big corporations in hopes to sue them and make a hefty sum of money. But then again, we do live in the day and age where everyone will try to sue anybody for anything under the sun! People hardly take responsibility for their own actions, or lack thereof.
I agree with Paul...and sorry buddy, can't think of anything stronger than ridiculous either.
Stupid people
Might I perhaps suggest 'contemptible?' 'Preposterous?' :)
Seriously, people (although, I hesitate to consider a great many parents members of my species) need to stop blaming others whenever their bad parenting ends up manifesting itself in their children. Maybe if these idiots spent less time watching Opera and Dr. Phil, and more time involved with what their f'd up kids were doing, maybe they wouldn't need to avoid thinking about their own failure by bringing lawsuits against the first thing they choose to place blame in.
STOP RUNNING FROM YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY, PARENTS! Aren't you supposed to be teaching your kids how to be responsible? WAY TO GO ON THAT ONE. I guess your first mistake though was your kids. Not responsible enough to use contraception, or be involved with your kids, and THEN you go and point fingers. Wow. What a hypocritical society in which we live.
You obviously don't have kids
Some day I hope you understand what parents actually go through to protect thier kids. Your remarks and the rest were absolutly ridiculous and a slam on all parents. Yes, there are parents who let thier kids do whatever they want, whenever they want. But there are more that do keep tabs and do the absolute best they can to protect thier kids from the slim out on the web. I wish MySpace would blow up. I'd like to see MORE lawsuits against them. You idiot, you keep mentioning how the kids should read that they aren't old enough to be there and that's it? Are you really that dumb? Do any of you realize that the parents are the responsible ones for thier child's actions? We are all trying to do something about this. I am starting my class action suit against them too. I am sick of the porn, drugs, drinking and death stuff that's out there. They are promoting it all like it's ok. MYSPACE IS THE BLAME, not the kids. You know I hope when you have kids, if you ever do that it comes back two-fold for you so that you get a clearer picture of what being a parent REALLY means. How dare you judge anyone. And for all the PERFECT parents? You must only have one child and I am sure you read all the books on how to be a parent. Get real and get a life. To sit there and say it's the parent's fault their 14 year old daughter was raped. What a bunch of crap. MySpace brought all this anquish on themselves
Control your own!!!
You can block your kids from going to myspace just like anyone else can. That would be the responsible thing to do. You need to instill enough thought into your kids to know better and be able to judge right and wrong themselves more than have it done for them. That is part of the problem these days. To have free speech, free press and a free internet means that you have to teach and control your own kids not control what others can and cannot do.
How do you people retain the intelligence to breath?
Are you joking? The scariest concept I can see here is that I think you're ACTUALLY serious. So let me get this strait... It's MYSPACE's fault because you can't keep your kids off the computer? Might I reccomend keeping them in a fish bowl? Put a lid on it too.
Because parents cannot keep control of their kids and are so desperately afraid of EVERYTHING we should all be forced to run around on leashes in padded suits? Give me a break.
"You don't have kids." Of course I don't. I didn't go around popping out children just because it seemed like a fun thing to do when I lacked the responsibility to look after them. I've helped raise my fair share, but until I consider this world a safe enough place and I feel I am responsible enough to raise them and keep them safe, no I'm not having kids. Yes, that means I probably never will because I have whack job lunatic morons like you trying to strangel them to death with their umbillical cord before they're even born.
So... let me follow this out. I should be suing everyone in the united states because I can't be trusted to watch myself and they should have been? That IS the legal precedent you want to set. You sue myspace because they didn't identify criminal elements? Now sue every corporation, public building, and private community because they didn't flood you will warning that there MAY BE SEXUAL PREDATORS out there after your young tender children whom you could not be bothered to watch 24/7. IT IS NO DIFFERENT so don't even mouth the words.
You need to look out for you and yours. You want to change things and make it safer for your children? Put the blame where it belongs you flaming retard! Look in the mirror. It's YOUR fault that this sort of thing happens. Did you step forward to enforce stricter punishments for rapists? Probably not. Did you push the laws to actually confine these dangerous people? I doubt it. YOU let the sexual predators get away with this. Not some online site your kid went onto when you weren't looking and found them on.
I'm willing to be most of you whining maggots BOUGHT your kid the computer/cell phone/pda that your kid uses to get online daily to look up things you are to buisy to keep watch on and you want to blame everyone but yourself. You disgust me. You and everyone like you.
MYSPACE is a place giving people a voice and turning a buck from advertising. YOU are supposed to be a parent. You don't even know you're not. You're a legal guardian. The government owns yours kids. Read the social security laws. The moment you gave one to your child, they're now a ward of the state. It's not Daddy Warbucks. It's Uncle Sam.
I'm sick of you blind eyed morons crying foul everytime you stupidly let something bad happen to yourselves. Common sense is almost gone thanks to you people. You spill coffee and blame someone else. You eat to much food and blame someone else. You let your kids online where they talk to strangers who offer them candy and rape them and you blame someone else.
THIS IS YOUR FAULT! If you want to fix this, take responsibility and fix the problems at the root and do not shoot the bystanders when you blind fire.
I'm sorry if the rest of us are not opportunistic weasles enough, but we tend to look out for ourselves. When we screw up, we don't blame someone else and sue them to help pay for our wasted lives. We go make one. You people are the poster children for hate crimes. You can't even fix your own real world lives and communities and you want to come 'fix' the net just to make yourself feel validated?
Enough is enough. If you don't like the world, do something useful to fix it that WE ALL consider useful or get out of it. You're wasting valuable people's air.
If you think it's a crime to take away one person's rights and will by forcing them to do something against their will, yet have no problem with raping the entire world in the same manner by taking away our god given right just so your child isn't tempted and you don't have to be a responsible parent? Do everyone a favor... kill your entire family and then slit your wrists. You're polluting the gene pool with weak minded stupidity.
I can tell you exactly what I would have done if it had been my daughter that had been preyed upon. The moment I knew who it was, I would have made that sick twisted socially decrepit freak pay for an eternity before I finally allowed them to die a screaming messy death. Then I would have went to jail knowing I helped make the world a safer place for the rest of us. Incidentally, I would have filmed the whole affair and posted it on MYSPACE as a warning to what happens to people like him.
It's pretty sad. A child molestor has a average prison stay of two weeks before he's mutilated to death by the other inmates. How does it feel to know that hardened criminals have a better more effective sense of justice than you seem to?
Ebay, Yahoo, MSN, AOL, Livejournal, Youtube, every email, every online game, every message board... ALL of these will soon be gone if this court case is found in favor against Myspace. If you do not like the net, please keep yourself and your kids off it.
I have 7 kids
And my kids do NOT go on the internet without my permission, they do not go to myspace, and they are watched when they are on the computer at all times. Blaming Myspace is insane -- here's a hint -- PAY SOME ATTENTION TO YOUR KID. I suppose you are too busy though than to make sure your kid is safe --but please keep trying to pass the buck. It only makes you look irresponsible and ignorant.
I have just come across this
I have just come across this site and was reading some of your views, I have to say, Parents that are blaming "My Space" are crazy. You need to pay more attention to what your kids are doing and quit letting the computer be your babysitter. These underage girls that get on there and lie about their age and then cry rape, should be punished and sitting in jail themselves, as should their parents. Instead of ruiening young adult mens lives. This growing problem just auppals me. And I won't stop until I get some kind of law passed to protect the Innocent young adult men safe from these " Not so Innocent" young girls!!!
get a brain!!
how about blocking myspace or dis-connectiong the internet all togather if its really that bad! anyway, how about you suggest somthing that could stop sexual predators and the rest?? as the guy who wrote the blog said, the only way is to shut it down!!
Now- that's just silly
I'm at 25 year old female, but my parents taught me not to meet strangers in private places. Although Myspace was not around in my teens, other internet sites were and again- guess what-
I knew better, thanks to my parents, than to fall prey to a predator by agreeing to meet someone I spoke to online. You can't blame myspace, or any other Internet site, for your lack of responsibility to ensure your children know the difference between what's right and what's wrong....