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How far can you drive after the gas-tank warning light goes on?

The answer may be surprising to some

By Paul McNamara on Fri, 06/22/07 - 1:38pm.

Now there's a question that can drive a driver around the bend. In fact, it has dogged motorists ever since Henry Ford first uttered those immortal words - "Hey, guys, this thing needs a gas-tank warning light" - and even inspired a memorable Seinfeld episode called "The Dealership."

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Most of us muddle through life not knowing the answer to the question - not daring to find out the hard way - and living in mortal fear that we're letting the needle slide too close to its final resting place.

Not Justin Davis, though: He's no muddler; he's a seeker of knowledge.

Which brings us to www.tankonempty.com, a so-called crowdsourcing site launched by Davis just last night. From the site's "about" page:

During a road trip from Michigan to New York, the gas light went on and we wondered how far we could go before stopping. Since there wasn't a way to find out without calling AAA, we decided to let some Internet collaboration help out. If enough people vote, we can get a better idea of how far you can go once your gas light goes on.

After thinking this over, we realized there must be some great stories out there about people on car trips or just about their car in general. Why not have a place to share these stories with other people too? So if you've got a great story about a road trip, or a just an entertaining story about driving, share it with us and the community.

A series of drop-down menus let you find the data collection page for your vehicle, at which point you're asked for the maximum mileage you've pushed things after the light goes on. You don't have to have risked being stranded to participate and mileage estimates are OK.

The site will tally up all the mileage entries and spit out an average, maximum and standard deviation for each make and model. There isn't much data yet, of course, since the site just launched. Your contributions would be appreciated.

A 24-year-old freelance Web developer working at a startup, Davis lives in Ann Arbor, Mich. and tells me in an e-mail exchange that he's been tinkering with TankOnEmpty "for a couple weeks on and off."

I mentioned to him I that I couldn't help noticing from the anecdote he tells about the idea's origin that he has yet to really test his own car's outer limits.

His reply: "Hmm, that's a good point. Part of the reason is that it would really only answer the question for my car. With the collaboration of users, we can get a better idea about how far all cars go. The other part of the reason is that I had no audience until last night, so if enough people add their 2 cents it will make sense."

Suddenly I can't wait for the next time my gas-tank light comes on. Can't promise a full-tilt Kramer, because I'm just not that kind of guy, but I do intend to suck up some fumes.

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Not in my hybrid you don't, buddy

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The gas tanks in Priuses (Prii?) have these polymer "bladders" to reduce gas evaporation, which is a good thing, but which also shrink and expand depending on the temperature, so you never really know exactly how much gas you have left when the gas gauge starts flashing at you (yeah, no idiot lights here). And if you run out of gas and then keep going on battery, you have to do all sorts of magical incantations to ever start the car up again (and you wind up shortening the life of the big battery that helps power the electric motor).

The reason automobiles have

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The reason automobiles have fuel level warning lights is to keep you from burning up your fuel pump. It is not a good idea to see how long you can keep going after the warning light comes on.

The reason automobiles have

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I am not so sure that it is true. The Chevy Suburban owners manual tells you to not let the tank get lower than 1/4 of a tank or you risk burning up the fuel pump and the light doesn't come on.

fuel pump

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The real reason cars have warning lights is to keep you from running out of gas. I can not speak for all cars but Ford sense the entroduction of electric fuel pumps, have had a shut off after 30 seconds of no oil pressure.

Damage is damage!

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The gasoline in the tank serves a dual purpose.
Obviously, it runs the engine.
Secondly, it acts like a heat sink and keeps the fuel pump that sits inside the fuel tank from over heating. If you let the fuel go to low, there will not be enough fuel in the tank to keep the pump cooled.
Additionally, if you let the tank run dry, you run into a whole 'nuther set of problems from a siezed fuel pump to damaged injectors to damaged injector manifolds...it isn't pretty.
Also...one more thing to worry about. all gas tanks have "crud" in them...sure, there are screens, restrictors and filters to keep this stuff out of the smaller parts, but do you really want to push the odds?
And here is the thing to think about...the damage to your automobile may not occur on the first offence...perhaps not even on the second offence...heck, it may not even happen after a hundred offences....but you know what? Damage to your system is an additive effect, eventually your system will fail due to your negligence...and your vehicle warranty will not cover that damage because it is obviously due to neglect!
Ed
web/gadget guru

Question about this kind of damage

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First of all, if we whipped up a list of the things that I know nothing about, not only would it be a very long list but cars would be way up near the top. That said, I am puzzled by these warnings of grave damage should one allow the tank to go near empty, or, heaven forbid, run dry. Don't people run out of gas every day? Why aren't all of these cars being damaged? Or are they? I've only run out of gas once in my life and don't recall the car suffering any damage, but perhaps it just went unnoticed by me because, well, see above. Thanks.

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