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There's stress and then there's stress
CCIE Test more stressful than stalling in a plane? You can always retake a test. If you crash the plane, it's over.
How about riding through Fallujah, Iraq in a lightly armored Humvee? Would you like to switch places with the guy taking the CCIE test?
There's stress and then there's stress
Second counterpoint -- Humvee in Iraq -- strikes me as legit. Clearly life and death. But the stalled plane? I'm no pilot, but I presume pilots *practice* such stalls because the risks associated with recovering from one are small, so small, in fact, that the risk of encountering one without having practiced is greater. As for whether it's more stressful than the CCIE? Having attempted neither, I'll go with the word of the man who's done both.
Not all CCIEs make good QA guys though
It has been my experience that some of the CCIEs that I spoke to when I was hiring people for QA could not quite answer the questions articulately and also there seemed to be quite a gap between their theoretical understanding and hands-on ability. I would rather hire a smart non-CCIE and pay him less and train him well than hire a CCIE and having to pay him more.
As a holder of a Private Pilot License I agree with Paul that the risk of practicing a stall/spin in an airplane is not so high in that after you practice a few times with the instructor, it is possible to practice it on your own so as to recognize a stall/spin if you get into one, and be able to come out of it successfully.
Answering some questions at
Answering some questions at an interview proves nothing. Some of the most brilliant people in IT have a hard time conveying their knowledge. The IE lab is practical not theoretical. Are you just putting down IE's because you cant do it yourself?
There's stress and then there's simulated stress
True, stalling a plane on purpose CAN be stressful. however, in the CCIE lab, you don't get the experienced proctor sitting next to you in order to bail you out should you start to do anything to THAT level of failure.
I don't think anyone is saying that the CCIE exam is THE most stressful thing that you'll EVER run across (in case you are an adrenaline junkie) but in the IT world (which i think is where we're at) it ranks up there pretty high.
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ccie lab or b2b bombing
ccie is more stressfull than facing b2b bombing guys just relax and do hardwork any quiery about ccie mail me on
CCIE - not that bad
It's just an exam, study for it, and give it a shot. If you fail, study more and try again. All this talk about "evil" test, and "SUPER STRESS" etc. etc. is just a little over the top. There are people dying in the world from hunger, earthquakes, hurricanes; people practically killing themselves so that they are able to buy a bottle of milk for their new born baby. THAT IS STRESS! Lets get some perspective people. I'ts just an exam, not life or death.
Passed on second attempt -
Passed on second attempt - there was no real stress, the first go showed me what to expect / where I needed to improve & the second was pretty much as I expected - not a piece of cake but not a stressful time either. If you do the right ground work then the exam is achievable.
Yes, it is a matter of life and death ... at least for me.
Ths cost of CCIE exam is US$1600 and there is additional expense for training/coaching it will cost another US$15K - US$20K or may be slight lesser. At present I am an unemployed and plan to get this money from some nasty people and in case I fail at the exam I will not get a decent job and will definetly fail to return the money (with interest) as a result they will blow my brains out. For 10 hrs show we have to devote years of training and study. I don't think no other exams in the world requires such preperations.
Arnab Sinha
India
Not a pilot, lawyer or CCIE, but a CPA
It's a gross oversimplification to equate pass rates with difficulty. Pass rates are the correlation between preparation and examination. Poor instruction or poor preparation often lead to lower pass rates in any exam. Difficulty not so much, if the instruction and prep are well focused. All of these fields require much study and effort. Perhaps the low pass rate of the CCIE is the result of the greater number of people who self-study, perhaps study materials are not as relevant as those in the other professions, or perhaps the CCIE really is more difficult. Anybody out there both a CCIE and a lawyer or CPA? I doubt it. Why not focus on why the CCIE pass rate is so low? or why the various methods available don't have a better track record at preparing candidates? or whether an artificially low pass rate is Cisco's way of inflating the value of the CCIE?