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RE: Lenovo ThinkPad X61 Tablet Edition review

I have been a user of Tablet PCs since their introduction, and have used several units from several manufacturers. While I've had a couple of problems here and there, the manufacturers have always resolved them. A few months ago, I purchased a totally loaded Lenovo X61. While I really like this unit, I've had a few problems. But most importantly, my customer service experience has been nothing short of a nightmare. Here is a copy of an email I sent to three Lenovo Product Managers earlier today. FYI, if anyone knows of a contact person at Lenovo, I'm still looking for a way to resolve my problems.

Here's a copy of the email I sent Lenovo today:

I am writing to you to express my absolute outrage with Lenovo’s customer service. This entire experience has been a total fiasco of the highest degree. Fortunately, I am a technology consultant and advisor, and am frequently in a position to influence decision-making with some significant companies. While I have had to put up with all this Lenovo crap, I find some solace in the fact that I have now been able to reciprocate your complete lack of customer service by influencing customer orders away from Lenovo for well over 500 laptop PC’s in just the last couple of months. I’ve done this by convincing companies that while Lenovo builds fine product, the customer service is something out of a horror story and will result in huge costs in trying to deal with potential problems. And I will continue to go out of my way to convince everyone that will listen that Lenovo’s fine product combined with their horrible customer service equals an unacceptably costly value proposition.
Below I am outlining my continuing Lenovo saga. I want to emphasize that I fully understand the potential problems that can occur with technology purchases (and in particular with Windows Vista PCs); my outrage is with the complete lack of customer service that Lenovo demonstrates over and over and over again. I cannot believe that in today’s business climate that you folks are still in business with the lack of customer service that you have continued to demonstrate to me.

Here’s a brief recap:

In August just prior to my purchase, I called a Lenovo representative to gain clarification on a couple of items (questions on the DVD drive and the Tablet Sleeve). [As it turns out, the information provided to me was totally false. The DVD drive (which fits in the dock) did not ship with an adapter sleeve to allow its use via USB cable (without the dock) while travelling. Also, the Tablet Sleeve was not a notebook style cover, but rather a total protective enclosure (a product for which I have no use).]

I went on to place an order for the finest Lenovo X61 Tablet PC I could purchase (to the tune of more than $4,200!).

Right after receiving the unit, I immediately began trying to contact Lenovo. I subsequently called over eight phone numbers (beginning with the number provided in the information that shipped with the PC) before I reached a person that could help me. Along the way, I left four voice mails (with my contact information and problem as prompted by the phone system auto attendants), and never once got a return phone call. I also tried to contact Lenovo via the web site, but I could not complete the web form because my PC model number was not listed in the drop-down list.

Unfortunately, I was not able to get to someone to provide me a return authorization for the Tablet Sleeve within the allotted timeframe, so I have now paid for something for which I have no use. Just one cost for a bunch of extra product that doesn’t work.
When I finally got in contact with hardware customer service, I explained that I was experiencing the following problems (and by the way, no one was willing to help me with the problem with my Tablet Sleeve purchase, even though I received inaccurate information from Lenovo prior to my purchase, and couldn’t get a hold of the company to return it within the allotted time despite almost heroic efforts on my part). Here’s a list of the problems I am experiencing:

**Tablet Sleeve not the product described to me

**Fingerprint reader - I have now spent a cumulative total of over 3 hours trying to get this to read my fingerprint, and cannot do this successfully (although I have had no problem with other fingerprint readers from other manufacturers).

**USB port frequently connects devices at USB1 speeds (including three MP3 players and a Sprint Mogul Windows Mobile device - and the Sprint Mogul Windows Mogul device will only successfully sync about 20% of the time).

**Touch screen does not work properly (intermittent problem - will only work for a few seconds in a row). (I have gone through every touch-screen training I can find and have researched this extensively, and I cannot get this to work. FYI, I have had no problems with this feature on Tablet PCs from other manufacturers.)

**Norton Internet Security (pre-installed) has been a nightmare. I think I now have this disabled. Did you folks even test this product with your PC?

**The PC is seldom able to even see the DVD (when docked). I usually need to reboot 2-3 times to get it to even see the DVD drive. I can't get the PC to burn a disk with this drive. If I can get the DVD drive to even work, it almost certainly will not stay working long enough to make it useful. (It took me many, many attempts over two and a half months before I could get the LoJack software I purchased from Lenovo to even install!! So that really represented another Lenovo value, didn’t it??) Also, if I do try to use the DVD player, I am unable to undock the PC - it says the DVD is still in use (even if there is no longer a disc in the drive). (FYI, I'm still totally mad that I called Lenovo prior to purchasing the most expensive DVD drive you make for this PC to ensure I could utilize this DVD drive without the dock via USB while traveling - this has now turned out to be a total rip-off, and you now rank as a dishonest con-artists in my book.)

**The dock will almost never charge the PC. (When the PC is docked, the PC's power outlet is purposefully blocked, intending to get its power from the dock - however, I now can't recharge the PC via the dock. And, given the almost useless nature of this dock, I feel totally ripped off for the purchase of the dock/DVD drive/extra power supply.)

So, I finally got through to hardware customer support, and they gave me a couple of things to check out. I did this, and I called back a few days later. However, they had no record of the fact that I had ever called. So we went through the whole thing again. This time they had me try to do an upgrade to the PC. I did this and called them back a few days later. Guess what? They had no record that I had ever called. So I went through the whole thing again (for the third time) and this time demanded a Case Number. They had to transfer me to someone else to get this information, and I got cut off during the transfer of the call. So I called back again and went through the whole thing again. I did get the Case Number, and they shipped me some recovery DVDs. Unfortunately, I cannot keep the DVD drive running long enough to enable me to attempt to fix this problem. So after months of problems and the purchase of several (what to date have been expensive and totally useless) accessories, I am no further along towards getting resolution.

Along the way of this whole fiasco, I asked for a manager or some other department where I could log an overall customer complaint. I made this request four different times, and four times I received four different phone numbers to call. Of those four numbers, one was disconnected, two had no one answer the phone (although I tried to call several times), and one sent me to some other department that could not help me.

So I guess I will continue month after month of attempts to get my problems resolved. You folks should be ashamed of the way you treat your customers. Maybe I am just a small business and not a large Fortune 500 company, but you should refrain from selling to anyone that you cannot treat properly. Believe me, there are many other options in the marketplace, and my experience with others has always been good. So, rest assured that I will be doing everything I possibly can to influence others to never buy product from a company of such disrepute. I can only hope that others who you treat like this will do the same – maybe together we can put crooks like Lenovo out of business. If not, we’re sure going to make a dent in your business along the way.

Click to read the article this is in response to.

X61 Tablet Support issues

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Jaketech,
I apologize for your poor support experience. This is totally unacceptable. I am an executive at Lenovo in their global services organization. Please post your case number and I will personally follow up and have a support manager contact you early next week to resolve.

regards, LenovoBob

Jaketech Comments

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Jaketech,

Thank you for your comments. I was looking into making a large qty purchase of the x61 tablet for a major hospital however, your comments have postponed my decision. Did you get this issue resolved?

Please lmk I need to purchase 250 Tablets in the next 2 months but awaiting your response on the resolution to your issues.

-HDG
IT Business Analyst
Major Hospital in Ohio

x61

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Great! I just got my x61 and bought the docking base. I havent hooked it up yet but now I'm worried. I did note that the docking base does not come with own power supply! What a hassle. The Dell I bought came with one! I'm glad you mentioned the sleeve issue. I was going to by one and searched net when I found your post. Thanks for the heads up!
Rob

Bad Screen resolution / Dock does not work

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Like JakeTech,

I went all out for the best with my X61 purchase. The default screen resoultion is SVGA. Which I had specified. I later changed the speed to 1.8.

A Lenovo recommended change, that cost $100 extra. I believed this change to be an improvement and did not notice that it was an inferior resoultion. Well, now I have the biggest hard drive, fastest speed, 4G ram, 1G hard drive ram and every extra you can image with a 1024X780 resoultion. What a sham. I called complaining of this issue, without help.

Basically, they say well you should have noticed. They actually charge an extra 100 bucks for this monitor, so there is no way I would "assume" it was inferior. They stand behind their policy and there is no way to talk to a reasonable sane person to get around it.

Bottom line the customer service sucks. For me there is no solution. Pay a 15% restocking fee and then reorder the machine. Period! Like JakeTech, I have influence over a company with over 40K employees. I am willing to reorder, and pay the shipping etc; but there is no way I will pay a 15% restocking fee!

After speaking to a supervisor and a few others I stated that I would be sure that no one else in my company ordered this machine, and hung up the phone.

As for the docking station. It flat out does not work. And I was also disappoint that it could not be used for traveling. I wanted to return this portion and was told that I must return the whole order. They do not take back partial orders. When I put the pc onto the dock I get a black screen. That's it.

I spoke to technical support three times. I was told to update the labtop; which failed three times by hanging for several hours. Well, now it's updated and still I cannot use this expensive piece of crap!

I will do everything I can to let everyone know that Lenovo has poor customer service, and that it does not stand behind its products.

I now own a $340 dollar piece of junk. What's worse is that I still need to purchase a DVD for traveling.

I am glad I saw JakeTech's post!

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I am an R&D Electrical Engineer that works for a firm with over 150K employee's world wide. I have been using the Toshiba Tablet 3500 Portege with onsite service warranty for 5 years now and have been very impressed with their service. I was thinking of upgrading by purchasing an X61 Tablet, but was troubled about the lack of an option to get a 2.4GHz processor. Now that I see this post and the problems with Customer Service with Lenovo as well as docking bay issues (no ability to charge??? come on now...), this just killed the deal for me. I will not recommend this product to our IT department (and will recommend against it) and will seek a solution with Toshiba. They are the only other manufacturer that offers a High-Res display (1440x1050) for working with engineering CAD software, etc.

Update on Docking

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I have finally got the docking station to work; and found the technical support helpful and easy to work with; even though the entire experience has been frustrating. I really wanted to return this unit; as the screen resolution is not acceptable.

Any return, even of the non-working docking station would require returning the entire order and paying a restocking fee. Lucky for me I have a friend interested in buying it from me for what I paid. I've been looking at other alternatives and it seems this is still the best of its breed. Especially with the appropriate screen resolution.

I like the size, look and weight of the machine. In fact I have no problems with anything but the screen resolution. I simply wish that Lenovo were easier to work with.

Nevertheless, I will still not make an overall recommendation to my company. From the onset, I was disappoint that the fastest speed I could get was 1.8mh; and that choice came with a punishment; low screen resolution. This should be made clear on the web site; and exchanges should be allowed without restocking fees until they do make it clear.

After all, the exchange unit would have been 100 dollars cheaper. I simply wanted to trade, that's all and I said I would pay the shipping both ways.

The restocking fees would have cost me almost $500. Even if exchanged I would lose 400 dollars; plus additional shipping and taxes for a new unit.

I feel ripped off! Now, I'm still looking for a new laptop; and I actually have one that I like; but now I hate the company. What to do?

A Professional

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You claim to be a professional in the IT industry and you didn't check screen resolutions before you signed off on an order? Thats what things like XGA and SXGA mean. I have trouble believing that you wouldn't notice that and if you worked for me, I'd fire you, thats retarded.

Tablet troubles

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Jaketech,

The offer of help still stands. If you have otherwise contacted Lenovo and had your issues resolved, would you update this thread? As your email is private here, we are awaiting your response. If you still need help - I'm available on Lenovoblogs and the Lenovo Forum.

http://www.lenovoblogs.com/connections/
or
http://forums.lenovo.com

Renee(?) I'm sorry to hear of your experiences, and would like to help.

All, may I suggest that you join the Lenovo Forum and share your stories there? Help is available to you.

Mark_Lenovo

Thomas in Cali

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Although you are not worth a response, because you are rude. For others who are thinking of purchasing this the ThinkPad, if you choose the 1.8ghz processor, it will change the screen selection to multi-touch, multi-view. It does this automatically. This choose cost an additional 100 bucks. And no I did not notice the XGA.

Here is what I wanted:
12.1" SuperView WVA SXGA+ TFT, 2x3 UltraConnect II antenna

This is what I got with the 1.8GHZ:
12.1" MultiView + MultiTouch WVA XGA TFT [add $100.00] [Lenovo recommended]

Additionally Cali Dude, I did not do the ordering, I gave the specifications to someone, an engineer at IBM, who did it for me. They were not wrong, I think the same thing would have happened to me. As I did get the order sheet, but did not notice. After I received the machine I went to the site and that's when I realized what had happened. We both know XGA and SXGA but neither of us noticed. He was unhappy about the mistake, and he my friend is the one who purchased the laptop so that I could get another.

Cali Dude; if you worked for me I'd fire you! You have clearly shown that you do not or cannot comprehend, and furthermore, you apparently have a need to feel superior at someone else's expense. For me, this was a terrible experience, my hopes is that it does not happen to anyone else.

JakeTech, Lenovo and X61 Tablet

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Hello There!
First of all I am not Lenovo employee or any way related to business of Lenovo.
Reading your complaints it appear that you may have been a technology consultants but not computer consultant. And if you are working with companies that i invest in, then i have to reconsider my investments.
You must be a newbie who became a consultant by pure luck.
If you do know how to handle your computer and it was really giving you a hard time after using your skill as technology consultant then your e-mail should have one line of text, listing troubling hardware in technological terms. You should have asked for RMA and a replacement unit. you would have got replacement in 24Hrs turnaround time [as technology consultant i assume you would have bought on-site warranty with accident coverage right??? ]
As long as IBM has some stakes in Lenovo that is how it works.
Do you know IBM?? it has proven on site service even in Simpson desert in middle of Australia and where no roads exist.
Since 2003 I am buying Thinkpads and no other brand even come 1000 miles closer to this.
Get me a Tablet PC that work as good as X61, when i am going to use my computer as a notepad then it should work as one. when i need a touch screen than it should just do that. what brand offer 7200 rpm hard drive? and batteries that fits elegantly and last for over 10hrs.
By the way on contrary i have always had returned calls from Lenovo or IBM.... even on the last day of my warranty.

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