Their salesforce was horrid in comparison to F5. The product wasn't progressing like F5 and they showed a shady committment to aggressive development of features. For F5, application delivery (load-balancing) was their lifeblood, and it showed.
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What does this mean for Cisco ACE?
Cisco is also in the load balancing application acceleration business with its Application Control Engine (ACE), a blade that slides into its Catalyst 6500 switches and performs several functions typically handled by load balancers, compression devices and application-acceleration devices. Is Juniper dropping DX a sign of trouble in the load balancing corner of the market (and if so, how might this affect Cisco's ACE), or is this a problem specific to Juniper? Join in the discussion here.
* See also: Will Cisco ever catch Riverbed or should it just get out now?
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Citrix and F5 lead the way
Juniper got out of the business because it couldn't keep up with Citrix NetScaler and F5 Big IP. Cisco should do the same, but probably won't.
Usually the challenge is on the sales side
When a big company buys a small one and puts that portfolio under the same sales force, here is what happens: nothing. The sales guys will think "why bother so much work for so little money. I can sell a big router with less effort and it would take me 20 or 50 of these boxes to make the same amount of money. And, if that is not enough, chances are they will discontinue the product and my customers will be mad at me, not Juniper". As it turns out, they are 100% right. :)
Very unfortunate
These are excellent units and nothing could touch them as AFE's. Sure Citrix and F5 work as plain old LB's but if you use a lot of app rules and need the horsepower of multiple units, nothing can beat these.
I wish RedLine would buy them back and continue the line. We have several and many other VERY large sites use DX series AFE's...
F5 WebAccelerator is more than a load balancer
I would recommend that you check back in on the F5 product line. It has been a long time (6 years)since they sold "just a load balancer". The BIG-IP WebAccelerator module on the F5 LTM product is a full acceleration product; including dynamic caching, compression, browser multiplexing, and asymmetric acceleration.
You will be surprised to see what is offered these days in the Application Acceleration space.
maybe we can exchange notes later
I am in same boat. We use extensive apprules and finding a replacement will be a daunting task
I have ideas now and would like to exchange info
This response is laughable.
This response is laughable. They can't even make up a good cover story. They depend on differentiation so they kill a product instead of developing it. They are committed to their employees so they lay them off. What other offerings are they talking about transitioning their customers to? The WX is not a replacement for the DX. There is no cross product development going on or else they would have announced that. Even the wording is kooky, Nexus, Dilligent, Correlate. Don't they even have any marketing wordsmiths at Juniper?
Left behind
Load balancing has moved far in the last few years; Redline's application acceleration was always overstated and Juniper did little with the DX line. Hunt down some of the comparative benchmarks from a few years ago to see how Redline really stacked up.
Asymmetric App acceleration (TCP buffering, HTTP multiplexing, offload) is pretty standard with layer 7 load balancers. Guys like Zeus and F5 are raising the game with full business logic languages (TrafficScript, iRules) on top, with Citrix following and Cisco feeling their way with ACE. There are a lot of players, a big battle for market share, and Juniper weren't going anywhere.
Left Behind?
We evaluated F5, Cisco, RadWare, Citrix, etc ONE year ago and the DX beat them all in scalability, feature-set, performance, and everything else. None of the the other products fulfilled our needs. Now we need to start over. This is a black cloud over Juniper in general and makes me leery of ALL their products. What will they dump next? NetScreen?
I love reading all the
I love reading all the comments from the Citrix and F5 sales folks...hahaha!!