Certainly NetworkWorld will be fair and publish similar testing for Juniper's MX switch/routers? And the EX-8200 when it comes out?
Don't forget to sell the future of these products (you know... capabilities and features that don't exist yet) just as you have done here!
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thanks for the reply...
But its still not being very fair to Juniper or any other vendor is it? I'm sure Juniper would very gladly loan you an MX series ethernet router and give you all kinds of detail on upcoming features and functionality... like it will probably support 100gig slots in the future with an SCB upgrade, bringing the throughput of the backplane to 2.4tbps...
I guess we will never see an article on the MX. Hopefully we will see such an article on the EX-8200. With future capabilities and all noted.
The Nexus is a box of promises right now. Sure.. next year it will be better. Well so will every other vendor's box, and many of them will have vetted OS's written by competent programmers.
Do you get what I am saying?
Where is network world's Juniper Subnet?
just to be fair
Just to clarify a bit -- this Cisco Nexus piece was a product test in which he took a shipping box and tested it. We continue to test products from all vendors. We tested a Juniper switch in July. We tested an Extreme switch in March. And we'll continue to test Cisco and competing switches in the future.
The real test will be how
The real test will be how reliable this switch is over time. Since it appears to be a totally new OS (at least for Cisco, Extreme networks has had a similar Linux based, modular approach for years) it remains to be seen how trustworthy it will be. I can't wait to have to sift through the bug list and caveats list and try to figure out if it is riskier to remain with existing bugs or upgrade and suffer the new bugs.
RE: The real test will be how
It's not really a new OS, it is largely built around the MDS OS used on the SAN product line, but with the CLI extended to be more IOS like. Not a bad switch, the only problem I have with this testing is that the whole idea of a unified fabric is what should drive anyone to purchase this for their DC. Why doesn't NetworkWorld test the FCoE functionality that Cisco keeps touting as the greatest things since sliced bread, and stop worrying about simple capacity testing??
What is the true ROI / cost on this thing?
What is the true cost for the Nexus? What is the power draw? What is the cost? Maintenance?
With only 79.52Gbps across each of eight line cards you only have line rate on 8 ports. What do you do with the other 24 ports?
There are a lot more cost effective ways to get Line rate 10 Gb density. Woven has a system, Blade Technologies has one and Force 10 has one ...at a fraction of Cisco's price.
I can't wait to see the early adopters buy this thing and then get stuck with possibly having to purchase new line cards, Switch Fabrics and Management Modules to really make this work. Oh well... it's only money!
juniper test
Thanks for the comment. Yes, we will test Juniper gear. In fact, we tested a Juniper access switch recently....
http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2008/071408-test-juniper-switch.html
Cisco Advertising
Ah, come on. Cisco has all that advertising money and the folks at NW are hungry for it! That's why Juniper, Extreme and all the others are left out in the cold: MONEY!
cisco advertising
Not to get into a long back and forth, but just a point of fact. We tested an Extreme 10Gig switch in March.
http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2008/032408-switch-test-features.html
Oversubscribed a bit??
"Building a big data center and looking for a switch to match? How do 256 10G Ethernet ports and nearly 1.7 terabits of capacity sound?"
Sounds significantly oversubscribed to me. What is the hype all about?
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