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CCIE water cooler gossip: CCIEs are bringing home the bacon for Cisco

By Brad Reese on Fri, 10/17/08 - 8:50pm.

Over the past seven years each CCIE has annually been averaging $2M in net sales and $397K in net income for Cisco. Perhaps this might explain the motivation behind Cisco's new authorized CCIE training program.

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Furthermore as detailed in the below chart, Cisco is actually "averaging up" in both net sales and net income per CCIE.

Cisco net sales and net income per CCIE over the past 7 years:

  Total
CCIEs
Net
Sales
(Billion)
Net
Income
(Billion)
Net Sales
per CCIE
(000)
Net Income
per CCIE
(000)
2008 17,660 39.5 8.1 2,236.69 458.66
2007 15,062 34.9 7.3 2,317.08 484.66
2006 13,602 28.5 5.6 2,095.28 411.70
2005 12,421 24.8 5.7 1,996.61 458.90
2004 11,275 22.0 4.4 1,951.21 390.24
2003 10,144 18.9 3.6 1,863.17 354.88
2002 8,578 18.9 1.9 2,203.31 221.49

Average per CCIE $2,094,764
Net Sales
per CCIE
$397,218
Net Income
per CCIE

Sources: Cisco Form 10-K Filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the BradReese.Com 9 year worldwide CCIE count.

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This won't work...

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If you work for a company that wants stability and reliability, and real manageability... then Cisco isn't going to cut it.

I'm a CCIE and under pressure from management to find "anything but Cisco" to escape the bug-riddled nonsense Cisco pushes these days... I chose another vendor. Two of them actually.

I like routers that don't crash when you look at them. I like new software releases that don't cause your router to crash when you add a NAT entry or redistribute EIGRP into BGP.

Cisco is on the decline folks. They don't care about routers and switches anymore. Pretty soon other vendors will reign supreme in the R/S market and Cisco will be just a nice looking video teleconferencing company.

Sorry you are having such trouble...

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So you redistribute your EIGRP into your BGP? Ouch! iBGP or eBGP? Just curious?

Look Cisco is, was, and will be about marketing and marketing to make a profit. This is likely not going to change any time.

R/S is about intelligence in RS and that's about all there is to that. Others shove packets out at better rates of performance but if you need those packets to do more than just march off to Rome... You need Cisco. And this is pretty much non-negotiable.

Anyway, I've managed and configured a lot of Cisco equipment by now and I've consistently had a good luck with Cisco equipment. Not to say I've not seen bugs or experienced spurious issues from time to time.

With that said, a good experience with Cisco equipment and IOS is usually coupled with good configuration and sticking to leading or best practices.

And with that said, I've worked on networks designed and configured by Cisco Gold Partners who really would not ever publish their work publicly for the manner it was configured.

So be careful to consider what the IOS "CAN and CANNOT DO" and more importantly what it really should do when configured by one professing to be an expert with the IOS.

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