CCIE water cooler gossip: Will Cisco announce buying CCIE trainer Internetwork Expert tomorrow?
By Brad Reese on Wed, 10/29/08 - 11:50pm.
Internetwork Expert co-founders Brian Dennis and Brian McGahan are preparing to make a "major corporate announcement" in a live Webcast scheduled for tomorrow at 11 a.m. (PDT).
I know I'm putting myself out on a limb here, but I believe the announcement is going to be that Cisco is buying IE and here's why:
The Cisco 360 Learning Program claims that a major benefit of the program is expert-level mentoring and training from the IT industry’s elite CCSI instructors.
Who at Cisco has expertise identifying and selecting "elite" instructors?
Internetwork Expert has an all-star lineup of "elite" instructors who would not only be invaluable to Cisco teaching but also identifying and selecting additional instructors.
The benefit to Internetwork Expert?
Cisco's deep pockets and the ability to focus solely on teaching and developing course material while leaving the "business side" to Cisco.
What the Cisco 360 Learning Program Includes:
Furthermore, the founder of CCIE training provider IPexpert - Wayne Lawson, pointed out a major problem for the Cisco 360 Learning Program in his blog story yesterday:
| "How up-to-date will the 360 materials be maintained? If they are able to keep innovating and improving the offering, who will do it and how will all these cookie-cutter entities get trained up on the changes and understand what the instructor that made the changes had in mind? Will past students automatically get access to revisions? How?" |
Buying Internetwork Expert will help solve that major problem for the Cisco 360 Learning Program nicely.
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Do you agree with yours truly that Cisco will announce buying CCIE trainer Internetwork Expert tomorrow?
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Doubt it.
Likely announcing R&S 360 program.
Great bet Brad, even if Cisco ain’t buying IE
Received the following email message from Dual CCIE George Morton:
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"Even if you are wrong, you are right. Cisco no longer has the cache to build a world class CCIE training program. Cisco can’t scale the 360 program because they don’t have the CCIE bandwidth to do so.
"The second reason this would be a good idea is the fact that like Microsoft, the Cisco brand success is becoming a commodity. IBM learned this in the 1990’s when they started to move into support services and away from software and hardware for core revenues. Unlike IBM and Microsoft, Cisco has not taken care of the CCIE engineers that would build the service business in house.
"So without a strong, large base of company and vendor CCIE’s that Cisco can use, network integration and support services will remain a dwarfed business when measured against giants like IBM. I mean would you pay Cisco 65% gross margins for an 'almost a CCNA' to support your data center deployment or security implementation?
"A very strong base of CCIE’s is a minimum if Cisco wants to be an integrator. So why not start in the best of Cisco traditions by buying the brains to help jump start the program?
"Great bet Brad, and even if Cisco ain’t buying Internetwork Expert they should."
George Morton, Ph. D.
Dual CCIE 18532, Router/Switch & Security
Madison Solutions, Inc.
www.madisonsolutions.net
954-839-8486, USA
020-3004-9285, UK
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Sincerely,
Brad Reese
http://www.BradReese.Com
Wouldn't NMC Be Bought Before IE?
Logical, but unlikely from where I'm sitting. Cisco seemed to put their eggs in the NetMasterClass.com basket when they built 360, so you'd think NMC would be bought before IE.
In short... no :)
No, Cisco will not be acquiring Internetwork Expert, nor will we be joining the Cisco 360/CLP program. Class-on-Demand for the official announcement can be found here: CCIE 2.0 - The Next Evolution
Spells Doom for the Cisco 360 Learning Program
Hi Brian,
Listening to your superb webcast it is clear that the Cisco 360 Learning Program is doomed.
Cisco management are "no match" against motivated entrepreneurs who have a purpose in life!
Agree with you guys, let Cisco management chase the "money," they will automatically "hang" themselves.
Congratulations on remaining "true" to yourselves!
Sincerely,
Brad Reese
http://www.BradReese.Com
IE kicking @ again
Brian Dennis sure painted us an impressive picture in that webcast. The plans that Internetwork Expert has outlined certainly confirmed my original choice a couple of years ago as my CCIE vendor of choice.
Clearly IE is evolving their product based upon their experience providing training to students like myself. It is clear to me that IE will succeed in this for the primary reason that the Instructors are also the business leaders / owners and have committed themselves to OUR success. I will be voting with MY training $$$$$.$$
I think that students going through IE CCxP training will have a huge advantage by learning with the IE process and then following on to work on their CCIE tracks.
I need to finally pass the Security lab so I can get started on the R&S CCIE 2.0 track. Definately looking forward to that!