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Overcoming fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) in the secondary Cisco market

By Brad Reese on Wed, 04/22/09 - 12:03am.

Yours truly makes a living selling secondary Cisco gear, so I'm very biased, but nonetheless ecstatic to present the results of a survey, that in my opinion, suggests the secondary Cisco market is finally overcoming the fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) that has been created by Cisco in order to try and dissuade companies from considering used or refurbished Cisco hardware sourced from suppliers (such as myself) who have chosen not to become Cisco registered partners.

UNEDA - the United Network Equipment Dealer Association (an alliance of more than 300 pre-owned network equipment dealers worldwide) revealed in its most recent annual member survey, that over the past year:

186 (i.e. 62%) out of UNEDA's 300 members responded to the survey.
60% of members surveyed reported a decrease in the amount of counterfeit equipment they've identified and intercepted.
Together, UNEDA members sell more than $2 billion in pre-owned gear annually to over 10,000 customers.
97% of those surveyed buy and sell network routers and switches from Cisco, with Juniper in second place, followed by Nortel, Extreme, Foundry and Avaya.
The most popular Cisco equipment bought and sold on the secondary market:


2800 Series Routers
6500 Series Switches
3750 Series Switches
7200 Series Routers
66% of members responding to the survey reported an uptick in their business in 2008.
More than 86% of members polled plan to add staff in 2009 in keeping up with projected business expansion.
50% of those polled cited an increased supply of, and demand for, pre-owned network equipment as the top trends driving business expansion over the past year. An increased need for alternative maintenance and a growing demand for spares due to delayed product upgrades and network migrations rounded out the top-four factors driving continued market growth.
40% of the respondents reported an increase in business from larger enterprises over the past year, including financial services companies and first-time equipment buyers/sellers.
42% of the UNEDA members surveyed cited a high percentage of repeat business, with customers buying gear and/or accessories more than 20 times throughout the year.
The vertical markets with the most activity in the secondary market last year are the following in ranked order:

Telecommunications
Banking/Financial Services
High Tech
Municipalities/Government
Education
Network expansions topped the list of primary uses for pre-owned network gear, followed by production network, network sparing, testing and disaster recovery implementations.
93% of those surveyed cited the ability to operate in a secure, safe trading environment as the major impetus for joining UNEDA.
61% named the ability to adopt business best practices as their main reason for becoming a member.

Expanding further on the results, John Stafford - vice president of the board of UNEDA and COO of Network Liquidators states:

John Stafford"The results of our second annual survey help validate the size and depth of the market for pre-owned networking gear. UNEDA members sold more than $2 billion in gear last year to all types and sizes of companies. While a large percentage of our sales come from transactions between UNEDA companies, more than 78% of our members sell to end-users and more than half do business with organizations that have a worldwide presence.

"Despite OEMs posturing that only mom-and-pop shops buy from the secondary market, it’s clear from our members that larger enterprises increasingly are looking for better prices on equipment and maintenance. We’re seeing a big spike in sales to large companies with multiple locations as well as increased activity from non-traditional buyers, including financial services firms, banks and insurance companies. The economic downturn has brought more first-time buyers and sellers to UNEDA with nearly 40% of those polled citing an increase in this area."

Stafford adds, "For the first time, UNEDA will have a Booth #264 at Interop Las Vegas and we plan to be there in force to explain our role in the networking industry and share insights into what we can do to save companies time and money. We’re confident that our unbeatable value—with savings up to 90% off OEM list prices—and the immediate availability of more than $500 million in inventory are compelling reasons to take a look at what UNEDA members have to offer.

"Over the past three years, UNEDA has made major progress in validating our corner of the networking market. We’ve come a long way in overcoming the fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) that Cisco, in particular, is using to try and dissuade companies from considering alternative equipment procurement and maintenance solutions. In the future, UNEDA is working to become even more visible by enabling our members to use the association name and logo in their branding efforts while also creating a Good Housekeeping-type seal of approval to reinforce the extra efforts UNEDA members take to ensure product integrity and quality."

Stafford concluded, "Our membership, which comprises large, global leaders as well as emerging entrepreneurial companies, all share a commitment to making the secondary market a safe and reliable avenue for pre-owned networking equipment. We work together to establish and uphold strict industry best practices, which gives our customers complete peace of mind when they buy from, or sell to, UNEDA members."

Mike SheldonMike Sheldon - president of the board of UNEDA and president & CEO of Network Hardware Resale gave his opinion regarding recent market share gains by HP Procurve:

"Cisco’s reluctance to accept the secondary market is at least partly responsible for the growing success of HP’s ProCurve line and the further eroding of Cisco’s market share. When their own customers can no longer afford new Cisco, they are opting for lower-priced options like ProCurve, unless they realize they can still find ‘like new’ pre-owned Cisco on the secondary market. UNEDA members go to great lengths to fully test, certify and warranty their pre-owned Cisco products, giving companies another viable channel for Cisco gear.

"Over time, we think that Cisco’s relentless attempts to disparage the secondary market will cause the loss of even more valuable market share."

Sheldon concluded with his take on the survey, "This landmark survey offers an important snapshot of a thriving market segment that is continuing to grow despite the downturn in the economy. Now more than ever, companies are turning to the secondary market and UNEDA member companies to stretch their IT dollars farther. The high percentage of repeat business underscores the fact that UNEDA members have become trusted, alternate sources for the most economical, top-quality networking equipment."

Furthermore, Corey Donovan - UNEDA member and vice president of operations for Vibrant Technologies added:

Corey Donovan"The results of the UNEDA membership survey indicate a bright spot in an otherwise down economy as well as an awaiting marketplace solution for budget-challenged network managers and cost-conscious CIOs.

"Concerns about counterfeit equipment, mostly throttled by OEM FUD, are clearly drowned out by UNEDA members' focus on highly ethical business practices, which has led to $2 billion in combined annual sales."

Finally, going forward there are several challenges:

UNEDA members will need to address Cisco SMARTnet issues that include exorbitant fees for inspecting and re-registering maintenance of secondary Cisco equipment as well as Cisco’s new key and unlock program for OS software, which has the potential to become a real problem for UNEDA members who resell used and/or refurbished Cisco equipment.


What's your opinion, do you think the secondary Cisco market has overcome the fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) created by Cisco?

Brad Reese
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come on, brad, what's the sample size?

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great brochure for your secondary industry, but it would be a lot more credible if you gave the number of the 300 members who actually responded to the survey...i.e. x out of 300 responded (that would be the sample size in this case)...clearly, 300 (with an agenda) is a small survey to begin with...and a smaller subset (those who responded) of that can be discounted even more, but i congratulate you on your mastery of the calculator...but even you know that the sample size is relevant...is it really that small a number of respondents? that's why you didn't list how many responded?

still a little surprised that network world lets you run your brochure-ware on their site...

Good point, 186 (i.e. 62%) out of UNEDA's 300 members responded

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Good point, 186 (i.e. 62%) out of UNEDA's 300 members responded to the survey.

Keep in mind that this is a personal blog featuring my biased opinions, interests and thoughts.

So it's my opinion Network World readers don't need censorship as they are very capable of thinking for themselves.

Additionally, I find it very satisfying that every once in a while a blog of mine:

Is Cisco short of cash in the U.S.?

Hits paydirt!

Titans Vow Overseas-Tax Fight

At least in my mind!

Sincerely,

Brad Reese
BradReese.Com Cisco Refurbished

What Happen to 3rd Party Unbiased Surveys?

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I am not a regular reader of this blog, but I can't believe the lack of credibility I find through out. If I am reading this correctly UNEDA surveyed its own members and surprise, surprise the future is bright for the secondary market. How about you get a 3rd party to run a real survey?

Did you miss the point?

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Did you miss the point?

First, agree with you that very few people read my blog!

Second, the very first sentence of this blog clearly states for those few readers to note:

Yours truly makes a living selling secondary Cisco gear, so I'm very biased!

However, yours truly recommends that if you sincerely want credibility and unbiased surveys, be sure to ONLY read the following Cisco Blogs:

Cisco Channels Blog
Cisco Collaboration Blog
Cisco Data Center Networks Blog
Cisco Digitall Consumer Blog
Cisco DigMediaRev Blog
Cisco Ecolibrium Green Technologies Blog
Cisco Healthcare Industry Insights Blog
Cisco High Tech Policy Blog
Cisco Innovation Blog
Cisco Mobility Blog
Cisco Platform Blog
Cisco SP360: Service Provider Blog
Cisco Virtual Worlds Blog
Cisco Web Experience Blog

Once again, ONLY the above Cisco Blogs provide credibility and unbiased surveys!

Sincerely,

Brad Reese
BradReese.Com Cisco Refurbished

2007 Cisco Catalyst 6500...New upholstrey!!!

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Until there's a Cardfax like service for this gear, caveat emptor! Even if these seconday market vendors by from a "reputable" source, do they really know the history behind the equipment?

Ciscio equipment is frequently compromised by events like fires and flood. Much more prevalent, though, is contamination by construction dust that can have long-term effects on the equipment. Who knows if someone had been sawing cable raceway over top of a box purchased on the seconday market, or if it ever spent a weekend bathed in condensation because a CRAC gone wild? Would you want such gear in your production network?

My point is, like a car, the only way to truly know gear's history is to have been the first and only owner. At least there's Carfax for used cars. Seconday market vendors can claim all the testing they want, but I doubt any of them have the means to test for compromised equipment beyond a simple visual inspection

Gravel dust from dirt roads

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Construction dust is not as bad as gravel dust from dirt roads.

That's why secondary Cisco gear bought in "rural areas" (i.e. gravel dust from dirt roads) is so much less expensive to buy than secondary Cisco gear bought in "urban areas."

Just ask your Cisco sales rep, there's a "hayseed price" and then there's a "city slicker price" for secondary Cisco gear!

Also, never buy secondary Cisco gear located within 10 miles of the ocean (too much "salt air corrosion" from the sea).

Finally, if you buy secondary Cisco gear located in San Jose, California you may experience unmentionable contamination risk because it appears that the janitors are pissed off at Cisco!

Sincerely,

Brad Reese
BradReese.Com Cisco Refurbished

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