Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis turned away patients in ambulances for two hours Tuesday morning, according to an article in the Indianapolis Star. Why? Because a power surge blew out their computers, which house their electronic health records (EHRs), and after half a day or so the backlog on their paperwork was intolerable.
Something is weird about this story. Surely Methodist Hospital has industrial-strength surge protection for crucial patient-care electronics. So why wasn't the EHR system similarly protected? I gather it's not 100% mission-critical, since patient care went on for half a day without it -- but ultimately the manual back-up systems weren't quite enough. The article does read as if the computer system may have been located offsite from the hospital itself, at some central location for parent outfit Clarian Health -- but that's not really an answer.
And by the way, if this was more about billing than patient care -- why were patients turned away at all?
The article says:
A power surge knocked out Clarian Health's computer system Monday
afternoon, derailing the hospitals' ability to access electronic health
records for patients ... Staff members
at Methodist and Indiana University Hospital had to enter patients'
records by hand.By about 1 a.m. Tuesday, a backlog of paperwork led Methodist and IU
hospitals to stop accepting patients who arrived by ambulance. Walk-in
patients were still accepted. The diversion lasted until about 3 a.m. ...
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ahhhh, so the government must do something about it.
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Maybe the ambulance patients weren't Methodist?
Not a surprise
I would never go to this hospital. These are the same guys that paralyzed a woman by giving her 10X the epidural dosage and killed a few babies with heparin overdoses.
By ambulance or on-foot--a big difference
It makes sense that they were still able to take patients who arrived on foot. One might assume that such patients could provide their own health background and information (or that someone who came with them would be able to do that). If someone is coming in on an ambulance, there's the person may or may not be conscious. If the ER staff can't get access to the patient's medical history, they could make big mistakes that could cause harm (e.g., administering a drug to which the patient is allergic).
While not every patient in an ambulance is unable to speak or convey medical information, the ER staff would have a feel for how often ambulance-delivered patients arrive in a condition in which they can provide their own health history. Rather than trying to pick and choose which patients to accept (based on their condition during transport), it makes sense that they would opt to choose to turn away all ambulances.
There may be a golden opportunity for a business start-up here: a medical call center that exists solely to pull up EMR information. Each hospital could register users who could call in to a special number (unique for each hospital), identify themselves (through some authentication mechanism), and request that records be transmitted (or request specific information while on the phone). It would be a fantastic backup if the hospital's own systems ever were to go down again. [Request: if you act on this idea and make it happen, please remember poor old HikingStick. Thanks.]
EMR info
This exists, it's called IHIE - www.ihie.com
Lets any ER pull up info about a patient - in case the patient is unconscious. Also is checked to make sure a patient isn't shopping around for painkillers.
GoogleHealth
GoogleHealth
You do realize that
You do realize that unconscious patients show up in ERs everyday, and not every patient has a record in every hospital system's EHR, right? They don't turn away patients if they don't know anything about them. This doesn't make sense. Additionally, unfortunately, after having worked in the industry, I've quickly learned that major EHRs are not simply "plug-and-play" compatible. Health care providers have no incentive, other than for the good of patients, to share their data with an external call center like you described. Believe it or not, "the good of patients" often is not enough incentive for a health care provider to do something. Though Google and Microsoft, among others, are trying to develop a universal PHR, they're not really true EHRs. They might be valuable for information like what a patient is allergic to, what drugs they've had prescribed, etc., there's probably more needed for this to be a viable business venture. Lastly, I'm pretty sure HIPPA regulations would prohibit something like this, at least without consent for every patient, and I seriously doubt everyone would agree to have their info shared.
I agree that it would be great if something like this existed; however, it's been tried without success more than once.
Hospitals systems are now
Hospitals systems are now massively interconnected now because of HL7 or system interfacing, and usually this is all driven by the EMR.
When you enter a large hospital you are given a patient ID and sometimes an MPI(master patient index). This is the launching point for every service you will get at the facility. Imagine this example. You go in and the doc orders blood work. When they draw blood for the lab, a bar code is printed and put on the vial, that vial is loaded in the blood analyzer and then unloaded. Idealy, no human enters information from one system to the next. The anaylzer scans the vial, processes the blood and then updates your medical record. At the same time, when that sample is ordered, your record is shown in the EMR as waiting for blood work results. When those results come in, your status changes, so the doctors know to look at the results.
It is estimated that an in-patient patient needs ~150 to 170 procedures/processes per day. This is very very difficult to do on a paper system.
Here is the problem. Not all EMRs are created equal. Some vendors realize the importance they play in hospital system roll, others do not.
Look at Kaiser Permanante for example. They have been converting to Epic at a cost of ~4 billion dollars and have seen their uptime decrease.
The hospital administators probably determined that because of difficulties processing work, patient care was being compromised and shut the ED. This was a smart move.
Could be a simple explanation
Maybe it just means that the efficiencies created by EMRs were so great that going back to paper required so much extra manpower that it was not practical for non-critical patients. This may or may not be the case (since these systems and hospitals are amazingly complex beasts), but if true, this would just mean that EMRs can be indispensable tools for efficient, safe patient care.
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