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1 Year anniversary: Did the CCNA Specializations Become Valuable?

Gauging the Cert Zone Community's Perception of the Value of CCNA Specialization

By wendell on Tue, 06/23/09 - 8:48am.

Cisco frequently announces changes to their certifications at the Cisco Live conference (formerly known as Networkers). I'll be at this year's US Cisco Live event next week in San Fran, and I plan to blog several times about relevant announcements. But in the mean time, I wanted to review Cisco's biggest cert announcement at Networkers 2008, which was the introduction of the CCNA Voice, CCNA Wireless, and CCNA Security certifications. And the overriding question is this: have these certs become accepted and perceived as valuable?

First, a little background seems appropriate. Before last June, there was the age old CCNA, as well as the pre-cursor CCENT that you get if you take the 2-exam (ICND1 and ICND2) path to CCNA. The most common next logical step after CCNA in the Cisco Career Certification pyramid was one of the professional level certs. As of last June, those certs included:

  • Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) - Route/switch oriented towards Enterprises
  • Cisco Certified Internetwork Professional (CCIP) - Route/switch oriented towards ISPs
  • Cisco Certified Voice Professional (CCVP)
  • Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP)

In the mean time, in 2009, Cisco has announced that they will announce at Networkers next week the new CCNP Wireless. So it's public, but with few details.

Continuing the backstory for today's post, last June at Networkers, Cisco announced the CCNA specializations, as follows:

  • CCNA Voice
  • CCNA Security
  • CCNA Wireless

As part of that announcement Cisco made CCNA - good old, age old CCNA - as a pre-requisite for all the new CCNA specializations. Cisco also made the CCNA specializations pre-requisites for the associated CCxP (my shorthand, not Cisco's) - in particular, CCNA Voice as pre-requisite for CCVP, and CCNA Security as prerequisite for CCSP. When Cisco completes the CCNP Wireless announcement, I would expect the announcement to include CCNA Wireless as a prerequisite.

Finally, Cisco made room for an easier transition by not enforcing the CCNA specialization prerequisite requirements for 1 year - until today, June 23rd, 2009.

For background, refer to the following posts from around this time last year:

Cisco Expands CCNA

The New CCNAs: All Carrot, No Stick

Now to what's on my mind today. I wondered last year, and still wonder today, if/when the CCNA specializations would be as highly valued as the other Cisco certs, at least by those of us who have to study and pass the exams. I have my own opinion, but this time I want to get yours first, and then make my own comments. I hope to set this up so that next year I can ask the same questions, and the next, and see if our collective opinion grows over the years.

First, to see who's responding, I want to know what your end goal is for Cisco certs. It needs to be a realistic goal, but it can be long-term. If you can look yourself in the mirror, knowing you've not even begun study for CCNA, and tell yourself your true goal is CCIE, that's great, and answer that way. But if you know that CCNA is as far as you'll reasonably go, that's fine as well - I just want to get some read of who's answering the surveys.

Now, on to the value proposition. I'll leave it up to you to determine "value" - feel free to comment on why you see value, or lack thereof. What I'm after here is your perception of value - you can write comments to day why if you like. But for some attempt at a numeric measurement, here's a survey that asks CCNA specializations have value, don't have value, and one in between answer. The tweener is whether it's of any value to have a cert that shows you are progressing towards one of the CCxP certifications.

Finally, I wanted to broaden the scope a bit with the whole generalist/specialist argument. I blogged about this some a while back (http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/37465). In this earlier post, we discussed whether a multiple CCxP was more valuable than someone with a single CCIE R/S. We had some interesting discussion, and interesting survey math (look to the 2nd page of the blog post for the survey if you follow the link.) Anyway, I think the same analysis might tell us all something about the value of the CCNA specializations. Is someone with 4 CCNA's - the base CCNA plus all three specializations - more or less valuable in the market than someone with a single CCxP cert? (I'll call these "4X CCNA" and "1X CCxP" to make the poll formatting work.)

Answer away, and comment away. I'll let the polls run for a few weeks, past Networkers week next week, and come back to some analysis after Networkers. If you've got anything in particular you want me to ask of the Cisco cert folks while I'm out there, let me know.

CCNx Wireless

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Hey Wendell, personally I think the CCNA/CCNP Wireless certs should stand on their own. In other words, if you have completed the CCNA Wireless or CCNP Wireless, you shouldn't also be required to have CCNA under your belt. I think the knowledge CCNA gives you is desired and you should want to get the CCNA but I don't think it should be a requirement for CCNA Wireless. I feel that CCNA Wireless is fundamentally different than CCNA and the two should be independent on each other. Just my opinion... maybe the requirement will change after more people attain the CCNA Wireless certification.

Maybe it will change next week!

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Hi Joel,

Good to hear from you - it's been a while.

I agree, the pre-recks for the CCNA specializations are consistent, but there's certainly less need for the CCNA as pre-reck for wireless. I think they could have gone with CCENT as pre-reck for CCNA Voice, and maybe CCNA as pre-reck for CCNA security. Who knows, maybe others like you have commented, and Cisco will change the pre-recks, maybe next week even.

Later...

W

Idea for future blog?

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Is that the next debate then, 4x CCxP or CCIE? :)

Edit: Ooops replied to the wrong comment :P

Look here for 4X CCxP vs CCIE

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Fuzz,

Nice idea... just did it already: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/36997 - Made for some interesting discussion...

W

CCxP > 4xCCNA

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Hi Wendell

I would consider the CCxP to be more valuable than the 4 CCNA certs due to the exposure of advanced concepts. In the CCNP track, you already come across much of the exam objectives for the specialisations, and this is a generalised track. ISCW and IINS are very close in terms of objectives and there is a fair section in BCMSN/ONT on wireless and voice etc.

If you want to be a jack-of-all-trades, go for the CCNP. If you want to specialise go for the CCSP/VP/Wireless. I don't see the CCNA specialisations as an end to themselves, but that's not to say they don't hold any inherent value. All certs are valuable in some form.

Personally I am going to finish the CCNP track first, and then look at where the market is going. Security is still in demand currently, but wireless is on the rise all the time. By the time I have finished CCNP I'll know which professional level track I want to specialise in.

Ironic - you may become a 4X CCNA

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Fuzz,

Ironically, maybe you'd end up with 4X CCxP - and become a 4X CCNA as a side effect. Not that it'd matter at that point. ;-)

W

 

This year I've gotten the

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This year I've gotten the CCNA: Voice and CCNP. The CCNA: Voice has done little, if anything, for me. The CCNP has opened up a ton of opportunities, and helped land me my current job. I actually did BCMSN first, then jumped on the CCNA: Voice as I was looking for a job and thought it might help out considering I had some voice experience. I got a job, but I don't think the CCNA: V helped at all, the position was with an ISP and all R&S.

The CCNP definitely did a lot for me, and also gets some "ooh"s and "aah"s from people I work with daily who are CCNA or lower. At this point, 4xCCNA: xxxx won't come close to a CCxP, in my opinion. The certs are still very new and unknown by the people who matter in the hiring process. I'm sure they will become more valuable in time, but I doubt having all of them will ever compete with a single CCxP.

My current goal is, of course, the CCIE. I don't feel remotely close and I can't imagine having it in under a year, likely two or three though.

Thanks for the anecdotes on the job search

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Vito,

Just wanted to say thanks in particular for the positive story on job search and benefits you did/didn't find from various certs. In this economy, it's very encouraging.

And don't let the size of CCIE prep scare you - you've just got to chip away at it consistently, and accept that it's just a lot of study and practice. Your new job will hopefully help a bit as well!

Wendell

CCNA value

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I have the old, pre-specialist 640-801 CCNA cert. I will say that it has helped me advance in my career and paycheck. Beyond managers knowing about it, the biggest factor that determines the CCNAs value is how many people have it. In my region (Verizon Wireless Network) I was one of the first to obtain a CCNA (10/2007). I believe there are fewer than a half dozen of us who hold a CCNA today, out of 200 to 300 employees. Those first few CCNAs in an organization, in my opinion, will gain the most value from it.

Thanks for the anecdote

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Luke,

Good to see a specific example of the value of CCNA as an end to itself! Thanks...

Wendell

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Odom, CCIE No, 1624, splits time between writing books for Cisco Press and teaching classes for Skyline ATS. In his 25-ish years in the networking industry, he has worked as as a pre-sale and post-sale SE for a few networking vendors, as well as a network engineer implementing network technology. Wendell has spent the majority of the last 15 years teaching, consulting, and writing about networking technologies, most of which in some way relate to Cisco products. His books include titles on QoS, CCIE R/S, as well as several titles related to CCNA certification, including the September 2007 book CCNA Official Exam Certification Library (CCNA Exam 640-802) (Read a sneak peek of chapter 7). Click for the list of current titles by Wendell.