When most people think networking products, Cisco's on the list, often at the top. But when most people think network management products, Cisco may be on the list, but other vendors may play a more important role. This same thought translates to the Cisco cert space. None of the Cisco career certs focus much attention on network management. So I'm going to go out on a limb and start today with a conclusion: the new Solarwinds Certified Professional (SCP) cert has a good chance to become the defacto net management cert in the Cisco cert space.
To be honest, some of my reasons are more related to emotion, hunches, and gut feel, while some are more concrete. But, as usual, this is an opinion piece, and you can offer your opinions as well. I will also do a survey before I'm done today. So, on to the backstory that led to my conclusions.
At Networkers (aka Cisco Live) last month, Tuesday morning general session I think, all the seats were covered in orange-themed Solarwinds flyers. And although I came to learn that SCP had been announced a few weeks before the show, the flyer advertised SCP. So, we're at the show, on the day that traditionally Cisco would announce any new cert stuff, and here's a big flyer about a new cert - but from a partner company. Big hmmm there... so it got me thinking: is there an implicit approval of SCP by Cisco? Is it just advertising that Solarwinds paid for? Will anyone actually care about it anyway, without the usual drivers? Is there a hole in the Cisco cert space, and does this fill it?
As far as the "is there a hole", I think the answer is yes. The hole may not need filling, but the hole exists. In fact, looking at the most popular track (CCNA/CCNP/CCIE R/S), net management is mostly ignored other than very small topics here and there, and never as an area for broader consideration. The CCDA and CCDP tracks include a whole exam topic each on network management, but appear to have the most net management focus inside the career certs. I spent a little (not a lot) of time looking at Channel partner specializations, and again see small mentions of net management, but nothing extensive. (anyone know of any such Cisco certs?) So, if someone looks at network management as one of their core skills, there's no Cisco cert that certifies those skills.
Next, I like Solarwinds, from afar, but I like them. Full disclosure: I have no business relationship with them. But most of my childhood memories are from the 1970's, where orange was THE interior design color - and the Solarwinds stuff is covered in orange. And I love cartoons - Bugs Bunny is still played on our TVs with some regularity - and Solarwinds uses cartoonish drawings. They even brought the artist to Networkers - too cool - do you think the picture looks like me? So, absolutely nothing to do with whether SCP makes sense, but I like 'em, so that counts a little. ;-)
So, what is SCP? According to folks from Solarwinds at Networkers, it's 2/3 vendor neutral, and 1/3 Solarwinds Orion NPM. This link details the topics, with the "Orion NPM Administration" at the end being the obvious vendor-centric part. It includes these topics (followed by a few examples):
So, here's a summary of reasons why I think SCP can be successful:
To be fair, here's some negatives:
Now, to the poll. For you long-timer followers, you'll see the familiar setup: I need to constrain the question a bit just so it's at least somewhat focused on the topic of the day. So, think of the market for SCP as all people who care about networking and who are willing to pursue certifications. That is, let's ignore the folks who would never bother with a single Cisco cert. (That's a reasonable choice, but ruling those folks out lets the poll focus more on SCP). Next, the poll ALLOWS MULTIPLE ANSWERS - choose all you think are true. Several branches exist:
And inside this last category, I think there's some reason to think about whether that person goes broad (multiple CCNA or multiple CCNP track) versus deep (pick topic X, and run for CCIE X).
The nice thing about this one is that we can look at it annually, and in 3 years, we'll know if I was way off, or not. Click away, and post your opinion!
Odom, CCIE No, 1624, splits time between writing books for Cisco Press and teaching classes for Skyline ATS. In his 25-ish years in the networking industry, he has worked as as a pre-sale and post-sale SE for a few networking vendors, as well as a network engineer implementing network technology. Wendell has spent the majority of the last 15 years teaching, consulting, and writing about networking technologies, most of which in some way relate to Cisco products. His books include titles on QoS, CCIE R/S, as well as several titles related to CCNA certification, including the September 2007 book CCNA Official Exam Certification Library (CCNA Exam 640-802) (Read a sneak peek of chapter 7). Click for the list of current titles by Wendell.
I like Solarwinds...but
Don't get me wrong I really do like Solarwinds. I think its a very powerful and useful tool, its actually saved my butt a few times. But I'm not sure if would ever spend the time to be certified. If you look at the core of the CCNA/CCNP/CCIE much of topics covered are standardized protocols. Much of the information learned does end up being very useful. If Cisco went under tomorrow you'd still have a solid understanding of networking. I'm not sure you could say the same about Solarwinds and network monitoring/management. The Solarwinds cert only teaches how to use that specific piece of software, not to mention version.
I think it's similar regardi non-product content being useful
I hear you, AS. One brief comment back - from what I read on their web site, it looks more like CCNA/CCNP in regards to how much is product-specific versus non-specific. Only way to tell is take the test, but the whole (only) 1/3 on the product is part of what caught my eye. Maybe I'll take it just to see for myself!
Wendell
CCNA/ CCNP/ CCIE certification
I truly agree with your statement that unless one undergoes the certification hands on course it will be difficult to decide on the topics covered.
Taken the Cert
I took the exam yesterday afternoon and I have to say the non Solarwinds specific was tricky but the Solarwinds winds specific could be learned from a 30 day eval install.
I've also done the CCNA and this was definitely more Cisco centric than vendor neutral.
If Solarwinds went down the route of having an advanced non Solarwinds specific exam this could prove useful to the industry and help those of us that want to show were certified in the Network Management arena but not to any specific vendor.
It might work, time will tell whether it gets a foot hold outside of the Solarwinds community or not.
Solarwinds is not the front runner
Let's see.
NetQoS has NetAnalyst cert - wouldn't take much to turn that into a cert.
NetScout has nGenius Certified (Professional, Master, Expert)
OPNet has OCAAP, OCNPP and OCLAP
Everyone in the space has a certification program. Solarwinds is a little late to the program. They all cover basics plus the product. I don't honestly see this going anywhere more than any other vendor specific training.
Cisco training stands out of the crowd because they are so big. But again - its the basics plus the product. If they weren't so ubiquitous, their certs wouldn't be as useful or sought after.
Hole is full ?
AH,
...and I'm sure we could find a few more if I looked harder. Sorry, should've looked further - my bad. Thanks for enlightening me, and giving some balance.
Wendell
Hmm....
I'm already a Sniffer Certified Master and I hold a garden variety of CCxP certifications...
With that said, I work in a live Solarwinds Orion environment and I have a couple of $50.00 vouchers from Cisco Live 2009...
I also work or have worked with NMS systems for most of this decade.
So...
I'm in.
See ya!
Let us know...
Darby,
Don't break their NDS, but once you take it, I'd love to hear how it went. Thanks...
Wendell
Question 4 u
Where's your CCIE?
From a newly qualified SCP...
I participated in the beta exam for SCP, which took nearly 5 hours! Thankfully though everyone else won't have to go through the same (I believe the real exam is around 2.5hrs), we were subjected to the entire database of questions ;-).
Having taken it, there are a few Cisco specific questions (CLI to configure NetFlow for example) however for the most part it is vendor agnostic. For anyone familiar with the current version of Orion, it shouldn't be too difficult to get a decent grade.
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