Are HP, 3Com a better value than Cisco?

3Com ! H3C ! TippingPoint ! Great combination !

To NA customers, pls consider to evaluate 3Com H3C platform, superior value in Performance. Great Saving and low operating and maintenance cost !

Forget the past ! look for current who can save your money and keep your operation cost low. The New 3COM !

Don't tell me you can guarantee job tomorrow. Value is Value. Make it simple. Upfront cost, Operation Cost and Maintenance cost in 5 years !

3Com value much better any others ! we using 3Com LANplex and Core builder since 1997 till 2005. Comparing my neighbour who are Cisco fans. He claim he is paid 3x higher price than us after we share our cost of using 3Com in year 2002. Felt cheated ! Cisco only 3 months warranty. god ! still alot people like to give a way their hard earn money to Cisco.

Now we all using 3Com Switch 8800 and H3C 7500E. Great value. Superior saving. easy to operate and maintain.

Try it. Then You believe it. Don't confuse people again. Please.

Well. call 3Com sales now. Its proven. I did that after deep consideration to migration 4x Core Switch Cisco 6000. When Cisco send me letter said they no longer provide maintenance and charge me high price to new Cisco 6500 series and hundreds' of Cisco 2960s.

Cisco never take care of customer budget. They just max me. Because they think no one can do better than them. I proof to them: Cisco, you are wrong. I'm buying 3Com and happy with the performance and value given to me.

3Comer. keep it up. Serve your customer better ! you will be back to no. 1 position.

HP. Pls focus and do better in your Printers/Server/PC biz. You want to do everything ? huh !? See what happen to Intel and IBM old days. Don't kill channels biz in neworking and network integration biz. You are already 100Billion Turnover Company with 8 Billion Profits.

Think of your customer who use AdvanceStack Hub in earlier '90. where are you during years 90 in networking biz. Now with Procurve. dumping price. poor quality. Lifetime warranty ? Don't cheated people. I bet HP wont sign legal contract with you for its lifetime warranty. Is just marketing.

Problem Number One: The Brand NAME 3COM!!!!
A company can be only be judged based on past behavior and decisions... It is human nature. I have current large customers that were receiving Netbuilders and Corebuilders when the news were on TV that 3COM was getting out of the business. Historical data is always used to try to plot company's future.

Problem Number two: CHINA (Huawei and H3C)
Less than two years ago BAIN was trying to sell 3COM to Huawei for 2.2Bill. Guess what, USA government said NO!!. H3C was born... H3C is a ploy from China to ship Huawei products to USA. Huawei networking products are a replica of Cisco products (there sued in 2003 by Cisco). BY THE WAY 3Com leadership is based in China.

By the way, those low quality and no-innovative products are not as cheap as you think... Check it out, there are other networking vendors with very innovative products like Brocade, Juniper and others.

Do you ever wonder why innovative technology like FCoE, Cloud Computing, Virtualization (VmWare), on,on,... are always created outside China... NO TO INNOVATION, YES TO REPLICATION.

1) So, how you judged AIG, CITICORP, GM, LEMON BROTHER past behavior ?? Technically all these BIG GIANT ARE Bankruptcy. Caused thousand of people lost their rice bowl, the whole world paying for their greediness. 3COM. getting out of the business is a big mistake 9 years ago. within 6 months, 3Com decide to pull back it Corebuilder 9000 series and rebrand Switch 4007. Atleat they reckon the mistake and do best efforts to recover. If you were 3Com Netbuilder and Corebuilder customer, have you contacted 3Com for migration and support plan ? 3Com learn the expensive lesson old day and trusted are more care about it customer. What happen with Avaya. They exit it LAN biz silently in year 2004, now they want to buy Nortel Enterprise Product for re-enter to enterprise LAN market. You trust them ? Be fair to 3Com.

2) Please read the news/press release. The correct news were: BAIN Capital proposed to buy 3Com at 2.2bil. And Huawei want to invest as 15% stake holder of 3Com.

NOT sell to Huawei for 2.2bil. Don't mislead people.

USA government said NO due to 3Com owned TippingPoint. The security intrusion Prevention being used in Pentagon and NASA.

In Year 2006, when 3Com brought its remaining share in Huawei-3Com, an JVCO company with Huawei back in year 2003. 3Com take 100% ownership. Then, how can 3Com continue to use "Huawei"name ? It has to rename H3C to ensure less impact China market.

H3C don't ship Huawei product to USA. H3C 100% Owned by USA Company: 3Com Corporation. Rather the correct message should be: 3Com ship its H3C brand of product to USA.

Huawei and 3Com Corporation are two separate company. 3Com subsidiaries include: H3C and TippingPoint.

Now Huawei is Competitor of 3Com.

Let talk about Innovation Technology: 3Com is one of the founder of Ethernet back to year 70s. 3Com own thousands of patent and IP since day one. Take example of XRN (eXpandable Resilient Network) invented by 3Com in year 2002 and license to it subsidairy, H3C named IRF ( intelligent Resillient Flatwork)in China. The technology able to create virtual switching core and edge, then combine multiple physical Core Chassis in single logical managenment. Benefits include double the performance, max customer ROI, High Availability, Ease of Management in large Enterprise Network, Datacenter and Metro-E network who looking to deploy network virtualization and Cloud Computing.

Comparatively, Cisco Virtual switching technology only introduced a year ago. 3COM XRN/IRF technology already in the market since 2002.

So, who is more innovative ???

Please do your home work before publiched your comment.

Thank you

Don't trust Avaya.WE ask Avaya what is their plan in 2004 as my Campus full of Cajun Switches. The General Manager just wrote a letter: "We exit Enterprise Switching is to focus our IP-PBX, please talk to Extreme for the migration". Shit !! we just brought million of dollar Avaya Cajun switches !!