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Did Riverbed just put a big move on Cisco with release of 6.0?

Riverbed is the first do MAC

By Larry Chaffin on Mon, 10/19/09 - 10:54am.

Today Riverbed tried to take a huge leap over Cisco, Blue Coat and Juniper by releasing RIOS 6.0. This biggest part of this announcement is the optimization for Mac clients. This will provide a new market for the company of which they have not had for the last six years. Later this week we are doing a question and answer session with Bob Gilbert of Riverbed on this new release and what it really means to the company and the competition. This will be published in a new blog by Friday. (Disclosure notice: Larry Chaffin is a Riverbed reseller.)

Here is a portion of the press release issued by Riverbed today.

Enabling Citrix success without having to upgrade the WAN

Many organizations using Citrix XenApp have struggled with the performance and feasibility of delivering desktop virtualization across the WAN, impacting employee productivity and usability as a result. To expand its current acceleration for Citrix XenApp applications, Riverbed has simplified configuration and enhanced QoS capabilities for Citrix, with RiOS 6.0 delivering up to 83% bandwidth reduction and up to 50% better response times in real world environments. This reduction in bandwidth will allow organizations to deploy more than twice the number of XenApp clients without having to increase bandwidth at remote sites, while improving performance at the same time. ...

Macs up to 60 times faster

Consumer-side momentum with Apple products has been slowly making inroads in the enterprise, with more employees pushing IT departments to support Macs. As end users expand their options for accessing information, they expect the same performance no matter their location, platform or client. In RiOS 6.0, Riverbed introduces the ability to accelerate Mac clients with CIFS application-specific optimization.

According to Thai Tran, the infrastructure administrator at ESA, a Riverbed customer, "Our Apple Mac users working across the WAN were experiencing delays browsing and accessing files. After we applied the new Mac CIFS optimization feature, the delay was dramatically reduced. For example, prior to RiOS 6.0 an ESA employee downloading a 6.37 MB PDF located in the San Francisco office would wait more than three minutes to open it from a remote location. Once the Mac CIFS optimization was implemented, the same file took on average only three seconds to open. By accessing information 60 times faster, we're able to increase employee productivity and create a better end user experience."

What do you think? Will Mac support be a boon for Riverbed?

Cisco pricing tactics against Riverbed were not noted

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Mark SueRBC Capital Markets Managing Director - Mark Sue gives his take on the future prospects of Riverbed, "On a risk/reward basis, we're maintaining our neutral stance on Riverbed's shares, which are trading at 31x the Street's CY10E EPS of $0.77 (vs. our$0.85). Riverbed's stock has rebounded after last quarter's miss and much of the stock's recent movement may be related to the potential of a takeout. Our view is that the market for WAN optimization is growing again after last quarter's lull and Riverbed is at a minimum maintaining its market share. However, growth will likely be lumpy so we would rather be valuation disciplined.

"Riverbed had a decent pipeline going into the quarter, and with incremental improvements in closure rates, we estimate a modest beat to the high end of the guidance range of $97M to $99M and non GAAP EPS of $0.16. For the upcoming quarter, aided by some increase in deal sizes, broad improvements in education, healthcare and financial verticals, Riverbed may endorse revenues in a range of $105M to $107M vs. the current consensus of $104M."

Sue continued, "Regionally, it's still about North America with some improvements noted for Riverbed in Asia (China and Australia). Some weakness in Europe (mostly the UK) was noted, yet there was no major deterioration. No out of the ordinary pricing tactics were noted from competitor Cisco during the quarter, and thus we're expecting little change to gross margins of 76.1%."

Sue added, "Balance sheet remains healthy with cash balance of $269 million or $3.70 per share and no debt. We expect Riverbed to continue its trend of growing deferred revenues sequentially. Riverbed, similar to most tech companies, has started to hire again."

Sue concluded, "Over the past year, Riverbed has traded in an EV/sales range of 0.9x to 4.3x with an average multiple of 2.4x. Riverbed is currently trading at approximately 3.2x CY2010E EV/sales, using our CY2010 revenue estimate of $456M. We apply a 3.8x EV/sales target multiple, above its historical average to reflect Riverbed's dominant position in the WAN optimization market, to our CY10 estimates to derive our price target of $28. On a P/E basis, Riverbed has traded in a P/E range of 11x to 35x with an average of 23x over the past year."

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a network approach is better

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Silver Peak has supported MAC clients since inception. Here are some examples:
http://www.silver-peak.com/News/07152009_Continuum.htm
http://www.silver-peak.com/News/09182006_ivey.htm

Silver Peak has optimized Citrix and other VDI apps since inception. Here are some examples:
http://www.silver-peak.com/News/04232008_linklaters.htm
http://www.silver-peak.com/news/05042009_TheDoctors.htm

Silver Peak has been able to optimize DR in its standard family of appliances since inception. Here are some examples:
http://www.silver-peak.com/News/022309_Global_Ethanol.htm
http://www.silver-peak.com/News/012609_Dayton_Superior.htm

WANop vendors that rely on application-specific enhancements, like Riverbed, will ALWAYS be playing catchup to vendors like Silver Peak, which focus on fixing the WAN in support of all IP applications.....

Silver Peak?

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Riverbed playing catch up to Silver Peak? More like Silver Peak playing catch up to Juniper who is playing catch up to Cisco who is playing catch up to Blue Coat who is behind Riverbed.

Nice post though as I have not heard Silver Peaks name in about a year or so.

Why Larry changing and editing his words

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I am watching this blog since Monday.

The moment Riverbed announced RiOS 6.0, As usual Larry copy and pasted the announcement and started bashing Cisco.

But now I see this blog has been edited and become little soft. Initially you said, its doom for Cisco and blah blah now I can't see those words.

anyway, you also said earlier you don't know anything about Silverpeak and now you are saying you haven't heard of them in last 1 year. what a joke.ha ha..

Everyone at NW blog know, you are Riverbed paid blogger so its natural you don't know anyone except Riverbed.

Silver Peak MAC support?

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Look again:

ftp://ftp.silverpeaksystems.com/releases/NX_Release_Notes_Version_2.0.9.0.pdf

Specifically, page 13 of the Silver Peak's 2.0.9 release notes states the following:

Directory browsing optimization is not
effective with Apple Macintosh clients
and servers.
CIFS directory browsing optimization is not effective with Apple
Macintosh clients and servers.

CIFS acceleration is not compatible with
Apple Macintosh clients and shared
Excel workbooks
Disable CIFS acceleration to Apple Macintosh clients if shared Excel
workbooks are in use.

More likely, Silver Peak's press releases are carefully-worded to give the impression that they accelerate MAC, when in reality they can only do generic TCP compression. Of course, Riverbed's original Steelhead 1.0 released in 2004 could do that too.

Before Silver Peak works on Macintosh, I would recommend that they first work on Exchange 2003/2007 (as with MAC, they only support generic TCP compression, and no layer 7 optimization for Exchange 2003/2007), NFS, HTTP, SSL, Lotus Notes, and other protocols that Riverbed has already introduced. They might also want to work on supporting Netapp filers and Samba servers, since there are quite a few of those around too.

Josh Tseng
Riverbed Technology

Silver Peak Release Notes

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Apparently the FTP link I posted doesn't work if you pasted it directly into your browser. To get the Silver Peak release notes for 2.0.9.0, just google "Silver Peak Release Notes". The first link that Google gives you will get you to their release notes document, which clearly states on the last page that their CIFS acceleration doesn't work with Macintosh.

Josh Tseng
Riverbed Technology

CIFS on MAC

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from the example above on the Mac user, it sounds like rieverbed did no CIFS acceleration for Mac at all. A 6MB file in more than 3 minutes sound like a non optimized CIFS session. So what this release is saying is that you just added some CIFS support to cover MAC. Thats how I understood it.

Has Riverbed stopped innovating?

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There is nothing new in this press release. I'm not sure what you mean with the title of this post but this release sounds like most of their other releases.

My microwave oven has netflow & SNMP. So what? The implementation of CIFS on MAC is no big deal either - its still CIFS. Where exactly is the innovation and this 'big move' you're talking about? Maybe we can understand if you decipher this press release.

Nothing new in the press release?

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If you cannot figure out what is new in the press release which is in that big box up top, you need a new job. My guess you are one of those CIO's who knows nothing and needs to go to his mornign meeting to impress his staff.

IMO Cisco is going to play catch up again, maybe buy another company to keep up.

Why Macintosh-specific CIFS optimization is important

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For anyone who would like to understand the significance and importance of Riverbed's optimization of Mac clients, please see my blog posted here:

http://blog.riverbed.com/2009/10/macintosh-support-in-rios-60.html

Josh Tseng
Riverbed Technology

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Larry Chaffin Ph.D is the Chief Executive Officer/Chairman and founder of Pluto Networks, a Consulting and VAR partner specializing in WAN Acceleration, VoIP, WLAN, Telepresence and Security and a Riverbed reseller. Pluto Networks specializes in the needs of small, large and enterprise companies by always giving them a great ROI on the products they sell. Pluto Networks has a presence in 23 countries around the world enabling all of its consultants to be virtual. Larry was a Judge at Interop for the Best of Interop Awards for 2009 and is looking forward to the 2010 awards in Las Vegas.

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Managing Cisco Secure NetworksSkype MePractical VOIP SecurityConfiguring Check Point NGX VPN-1/Firewall-1,Configuring Juniper Networks NetScreen & SSG Firewalls,Essential Computer Security: Everyone's Guide to Email, Internet, and Wireless SecurityHow to Cheat at Microsoft Vista AdministrationMicrosoft Vista for IT Security ProfessionalsAsterisk Hacking2008 VoIP and Video ConferencingInfosecurity 2008 Threat Analysis and author of Building a VOIP Network with Nortel's MS5100, along with co-authoring/ghost writing eleven other technology books for VIOP, WLAN, security and optical technologies. Larry is currently working on a follow up to Building a VoIP network with Nortel's MCS 5100 Book as well as new books on Cisco Telepresence Networks, Practical VoIP case studies and WAN Acceleration with Riverbed.

Larry also has more than 29 vendor certifications and has been working on many others. Larry has been a principal architect around the world in 22 countries for many Fortune 100 companies designing VoIP, security, wireless and optical networks. He has expanded over time also to include application acceleration. Larry is working with worldwide company now out of Asia as a Special Assistant to the CEO and CIO as they go through organizational and network changes, helping them with strategic advice from his years or experience. Pluto Networks is a channel partner of Cisco, ProCurve, LifeSize, Riverbed, Call Copy, Fastsoft and Symantec.