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Threats abound

From organized crime to honeypots, our security gurus share additional thoughts on cyberterrorism.

  On organized crime
  On the effect of Sept. 11
  On honeypots
  On secret message servers

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Network World assembled a team of experts to discuss security issues. Joining in were Mike Hager, vice president of network security and disaster recovery for Oppenheimer Funds in Englewood, Colo.; John Pescatore, research director for Internet security at Gartner in Stamford, Conn.; Paul Raines, global head of information risk management at investment bank Barclays Capital in London; Michael Vatis, former director of the National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC) and now director of the Institute for Security Technology Studies at Dartmouth College, a counterterrorism technology research and development institute, and an attorney with the law firm of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson, in New York and Washington, D.C.; and Chris Wysopal, director of research and development at @stake, a computer security consulting firm in Cambridge, Mass. Paul Desmond, editor of the eSecurityPlanet.com, moderated the discussion.

Michael Vatis on the cyberthreat from organized crime:
There is an increase in the number of attacks that are happening as a result of organized crime groups. When I was [director of] the National Infrastructure Protection Center, through 2000 and the beginning of 2001 we saw a significant increase in attacks by groups operating largely from former Soviet countries. They were breaking into banks, financial institutions and e-commerce companies, and stealing credit cards or confidential client information and then either selling the credit card numbers or extorting the system owners. So we're seeing now a confluence between hackers and organized crime groups, which is a relatively new phenomenon.

Paul Raines on past examples of organized cyberthreats:
If you go back to some of the recent crises that our nation has gone through, particularly with the bombing in Serbia, there were groups at that time that were certainly targeting the U.S. infrastructure, particularly some of the military Web sites, hammering them with propaganda messages and denial-of-service-type attacks. It escalated with the bombing of the Chinese embassy, with a lot of attacks coming from groups in China.


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John Pescatore on a reverse effect the Sept. 11 tragedy has had on IT security:
Since Sept. 11, due to fear about travel and the like, a lot of companies have actually been opening up their firewalls to videoconferencing and Webinars. In many cases, there's almost a ripple effect. Businesses changed some ways of doing business because of the fear of real-world, physical terrorist attacks that are causing them to take more risky behavior [in terms of IT security] - videoconferencing, more remote access, more telecommuting and the like.

John Pescatore on honeypots, which are systems designed to look like unprotected machines and are intended to trap hackers and track their movements:
Putting a honeypot on your extranet reminds me of those termite traps that are supposed to trap termites, then kill them. My philosophy is, 'How do I know I'm not just attracting termites toward my house?' But using one of those inside your internal environment as kind of a sticky pest strip to see if you have an internal problem, I've seen some clients do that pretty effectively. They can't secure every server or monitor all 22 Lotus Notes servers, but they can put a honeypot inside and find employees experimenting or doing things they shouldn't be doing.

Chris Wysopal, on the hacker's practice of finding and opening file servers in corporate systems and using them to leave secret messages for one another, without the knowledge of IT folks:
That's extremely common. You're always going to find machines that are sitting outside of the firewall and someone had a really good reason for it. Or you find machines that are set up for interorganizational sharing of information, like an anonymous FTP server, and they're just not managed properly. If you're looking for a place where you can anonymously trade information back and forth by using someone's resources, you can find it in about a half-hour given today's environment.

Desmond is editor of eSecurityPlanet.com. He can be reached at paul_desmond@king-content.com.


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