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Cisco’s dominance in enterprise networking doesn’t necessarily mean it is the only game in town — or that you jeopardize job security by bypassing Cisco.
Indeed, the old adage goes, no one ever got fired for buying Cisco. But can someone get fired for staying with Cisco?
Two educational institutions are not waiting to find out. They are replacing Cisco switches with other vendors’ gear due to what they say is greater feature/functionality from competitive offerings, and lower prices.
Fayetteville State University (FSU) in Fayetteville, N.C., is replacing more than 50 of its 280 Cisco switches with ConSentry equipment because of the embedded network access control (NAC) capabilities of those switches. And a high school in Mountain View, Calif., is replacing 27 Cisco switches with HP ProCurve systems due to ProCurve’s lifetime warranty, equal or better functionality, lower price and wireless capabilities, a school official says.
A Cisco spokesman says the company can't comment on the MountainView project without the customer's permission. With regard to FSU, Cisco says the 50 or so switches being replaced include non-Cisco switches, but FSU counters that it was a "100% Cisco shop" before installing the ConSentry gear.
FSU’s decision to change out about 20% of its Cisco infrastructure came when the university encountered problems with Cisco’s Clean Access NAC appliance. The Cisco platform kept going down, students weren’t properly downloading the desktop agent, and the IT team had no visibility into what was happening on the network.
The Cisco solution depended on Cisco desktop software to provide that endpoint verification. Clean Access verifies whether users are running updated antivirus and antispyware software, but it doesn’t scan users’ computers for the actual presence of malware on that machine.
As a result, Trojans, denial-of-service attacks and other malware entered the FSU network and brought down the Clean Access platform. Also, bad traffic from users could hit the Clean Access server even if they had not authenticated or passed the EPV check, because that server was set up as the default gateway, according to FSU.
“We were having all kinds of problems,” said Joseph Vittorelli, director of systems and infrastructure at the school. “One of the biggest problems was the fact that students would come on in the evening after classes and start downloading music, movies, whatever. And then the viruses and infections they had would start hammering the NAC clients and it would just freeze up. It got to the point where we had to write scripts to reboot the thing every night so that people could get on in the morning.”
Cisco was largely unresponsive to FSU’s dilemma, Vittorelli says.
“’Throw more money at it — that’ll fix it,’” was Cisco’s response, Vittorelli says.
FSU first looked at just replacing Clean Access with ConSentry’s LANShield Controller NAC appliance and have that work with the Cisco Catalyst 3750 switches in dormitories to combat the intrusions and crashes. But then FSU learned that ConSentry had switches with embedded NAC capabilities that provided port-level security.
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Comments (32)
Schools dump CiscoBy Cisco Subnet on October 4, 2007, 4:43 pmNot very good news for Cisco in the education market today. Network World's Jim Duffy is reporting of two schools that are switching out Cisco switches for equipment...
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77 Switches?By michaeljmorris on October 5, 2007, 8:43 am77 switches? I think I have that in my lab. I doubt Cisco is losing sleep over this one. Not sure this rises to the level of newsworthy. Mike
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What does it take for someone to throw out Cisco?By Alan Shimel on October 5, 2007, 9:18 amReading this article it is just amazing what customers are willing to put up with and still give Cisco their money. The guy in NC should be told to look for alternatives...
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Only 77 SwitchesBy Anonymous on October 5, 2007, 9:52 amI agree, 77 switches is not newsworthy, however, the fact that Cisco is returning to their days of arrogance is...the only problem now is that we as users don't...
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You never get fired for buying Cisco???By Anonymous on October 5, 2007, 9:58 amIn my organization, if you waste money to simply buy a particular brand name without technical justification...you're gone! Switching is a commodity. Use the best...
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RE: Only 77 SwitchesBy michaeljmorris on October 5, 2007, 9:59 amJuniper? Foundry? Force10? HP? Extreme? These companies have the technology to keep Cisco honest, but that's not the problem. There are plenty of good...
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