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Two schools say Cisco switches don't make the grade

N.C. university reports problems with Cisco's Clean Access NAC
By Jim Duffy , Network World , 10/04/2007
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Cisco’s dominance in enterprise networking doesn’t necessarily mean it is the only game in town — or that you jeopardize job security by bypassing Cisco.

Indeed, the old adage goes, no one ever got fired for buying Cisco. But can someone get fired for staying with Cisco?

Two educational institutions are not waiting to find out. They are replacing Cisco switches with other vendors’ gear due to what they say is greater feature/functionality from competitive offerings, and lower prices.

Fayetteville State University (FSU) in Fayetteville, N.C., is replacing more than 50 of its 280 Cisco switches with ConSentry equipment because of the embedded network access control (NAC) capabilities of those switches. And a high school in Mountain View, Calif., is replacing 27 Cisco switches with HP ProCurve systems due to ProCurve’s lifetime warranty, equal or better functionality, lower price and wireless capabilities, a school official says.

A Cisco spokesman says the company can't comment on the MountainView project without the customer's permission. With regard to FSU, Cisco says the 50 or so switches being replaced include non-Cisco switches, but FSU counters that it was a "100% Cisco shop" before installing the ConSentry gear.

FSU’s decision to change out about 20% of its Cisco infrastructure came when the university encountered problems with Cisco’s Clean Access NAC appliance. The Cisco platform kept going down, students weren’t properly downloading the desktop agent, and the IT team had no visibility into what was happening on the network.

The Cisco solution depended on Cisco desktop software to provide that endpoint verification. Clean Access verifies whether users are running updated antivirus and antispyware software, but it doesn’t scan users’ computers for the actual presence of malware on that machine.

As a result, Trojans, denial-of-service attacks and other malware entered the FSU network and brought down the Clean Access platform. Also, bad traffic from users could hit the Clean Access server even if they had not authenticated or passed the EPV check, because that server was set up as the default gateway, according to FSU.

“We were having all kinds of problems,” said Joseph Vittorelli, director of systems and infrastructure at the school. “One of the biggest problems was the fact that students would come on in the evening after classes and start downloading music, movies, whatever. And then the viruses and infections they had would start hammering the NAC clients and it would just freeze up. It got to the point where we had to write scripts to reboot the thing every night so that people could get on in the morning.”

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So you are still sayingBy Anon on April 17, 2009, 3:54 amSo you are still saying Cisco is the Porsche right. I agree. BTW: People who work at Ford get Ford company cars. I used to work for a very luxury brand automotive...

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WhatBy Anonymous on March 23, 2009, 4:06 amSo anyone that would replace Cisco switches with Consentry (Not even int the top 10 for switches) is asking to be fired. There is a price premium for Cisco, and...

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I agree, switches are notBy Anonymous on November 8, 2007, 1:28 pmI agree, switches are not all the same. But careful on drinking too much of that Cisco kool-aide. It's often not as sugary as they say. Stay open to options and...

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Forget those crabs, Cisco isBy abbeyolu on November 1, 2007, 1:50 amForget those crabs, Cisco is by far more innovative than all these guys you are talking about. They have the best channels and support. I believe they are simply...

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HP deploying its own networking technologyBy Anonymous on October 13, 2007, 12:06 amIn response to "I have Cisco and HP", I would ask that you google "HP data center consolidation and ProCurve" to read the press releases regarding HP's use of its...

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