Support costs force Cisco routers out; Juniper gear in at Amazingmail.com
Company sees support contracts drop from $48,000 to less than $6,000
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Tim Greene
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Network World
, 08/12/2008
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Amazingmail.com tossed its Cisco routers, switches and firewalls for Juniper gear and wound up saving enough in ongoing support costs that the project will pay for itself in eight months.
The Scottsdale, Ariz., firm with about 90 employees spread over three sites made the swap during the first quarter of the
year with no interruption to its online custom printing and mailing operations, says Larry Prine, lead systems administrator
for the company.
There were some tradeoffs, including that only certain models of the EX switches can be configured to act as part of a single
logical switch, but the money the company saves on maintenance fees is worth it.
"Cost savings -- that was the motivation," Prine says. By cutting support costs from $48,000 for Cisco to less than $6,000
per year for Juniper and selling off the two-year-old Cisco hardware, Amazingmail.com will have the Juniper gear paid off
by the year-end, he says.
Along with the cost savings comes the ability to switch WAN routers when one of the company's T-1 lines fails, something that was too complex for Amazingmail.com to get running on its
Cisco routers, Prine says.
Overall, he thinks the Juniper gear is more manageable because each switch, router and firewall works on the same operating
system version as the rest, so any configuration changes need to be done just once for each. With Cisco, software versions
could vary within device type, he says, requiring more administrative time. (Compare switches.)
Prine swapped out two Cisco Catalyst 6509 switches for four Juniper EX4200 switches. A Juniper SSG 140 security gateway and
four SSG 320s replace three Cisco ASA 5520 security appliances. Prine says Cisco didn't make any special efforts to retain
Amazingmail.com's business.
Juniper EX 4200 switches can be deployed in a virtual chassis that enables managing them as a single device, but that is not
a feature of the EX 3200s, he says. So the two EX 3200s in his network are managed separately. In that sense, the Cisco equipment
kind of had the advantage," Prine says.
In replacing firewalls in Cisco's ASA 5520 security appliances, Prine had to go through every configuration file, test whether
it performed the task it was supposed to and then translate that to a policy for the firewalls in the Juniper SSG 140 and
SSG 320 routers he replaced them with. (Compare access routers.)
He found that many of the old firewall rules were outdated, inactive or did not do what was intended. Building new rules in
the Juniper firewalls was simpler than it had been for the Cisco firewalls, he says. (Compare firewalls.)
Both the Juniper and the Cisco routers could switch from one WAN connection to an other if a T-1 failed, but amazingmail.com
couldn't manage to get it to work with the Cisco gear.
"I'm not saying it wasn't available, but from the standpoint of what we knew here of Cisco equipment, the equipment that we
had wasn't able to do it," Prine says. "We could never get it to work correctly. It was so complicated that anything we tried
to do, there was something else to it."
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Comments (44)
What's the point?By Anonymous on August 12, 2008, 12:14 pmCouldn't have Amazingmail.com simply swapped out the two 6500's with Cisco stackables that have an included warranty with them and saved the same amount of money?...
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T1's ??? are you kidding me??By Anonymous on August 12, 2008, 2:08 pmThere techs must be stupid. 2 T1 environment and they can't get it to work?? Lame.
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I would agree that theBy Anon on August 12, 2008, 3:48 pmI would agree that the article is lame, but the EX series switches are cheaper then their Cisco equivalents, and in some cases better (4200s have dual power supplies...
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This article is just a regurgiated press release..By Anonymous on August 12, 2008, 4:01 pmIt seems like it's almost a cut/paste from a Juniper press release.. http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/amazingmailcom-realizes-tenfold-network-performance-improvement-with-juniper-networks-exseries-ethernet-switches-and-secure-services-gateway-59296.php
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Seriously?By Anonymous on August 12, 2008, 4:11 pmSeveral things about this troubled me about this article. 1) Creating a comprehensive network diagram has nothing to do with switching from Cisco to Juniper. This...
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Reeks of PropogandaBy Anonymous on August 12, 2008, 6:51 pmFor reasons the above comments point out, this article is more advertising than information. No doubt there's truth to the costs savings and benefits of certain...
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