Palm Pre vs. Apple iPhone: How they stack up

iPhones biggest drawback, AT&TBy Anonymous on May 26, 2009, 10:26 pmI would never go back to AT&T no matter how cool the phone. First of all I want my smart phone to be,.... a phone, what a concept. I changed from AT&T a few years back and I have avoided 99% of my p[revious droped call frustrations. I also want a phone where I can change out the battery.

It's the same old argumentBy Anonymous on May 18, 2009, 3:22 amI have been an Apple user for 10 years, and every year I come across the same arguments about Mac v PC. Now it's iPhone v all of the other copycat versions thereafter. For years anyone in the graphic design/music/etc industries have known 100% that Apples are required for getting the job done. Anyone who has picked up my iphone 1.0, 2.0 and soon-to-be 3.0 has been BLOWN AWAY with what it can do. Additionally, the 13,000 plus applications available for the phone make it constantly more and more useful. The Pre has a lot of work to do if it really wants to compete. My phone is a 16 gig iPod, camera, phone, wifi browser, wireless mouse for my laptop, remote control for my entertainment system, pandora radio streamer, wireless hard drive that's network accessible, etc. It's also a source for cool games and things. I can access my 350gig itunes library from anywhere in the world on my phone and wirelessly 3g stream the audio on my tele. I put my bank transactions in the phone and it syncs to my desktop, if I add/delete/modify a contact/calendar date/bookmark on my phone within 3 minutes the information is synced across all 3 of my apple computers at home. iPhone accesses my 20 gig iDisk from anywhere in the world and lets me cut/copy/paste/email those docs. It does more and more all the time and keeps getting better. I'm an Apple guy who depends on my Macbook Pro to run my audio studio, so maybe I'm partial. I hear a lot of ppl negatively argue when it comes to Apple... Honestly, try one out and then form an opinion. Spec to spec match of any computer next to an Apple results in the Apple destroying the competition. The same goes for the phones. There's really no contest and anyone who uses Apple products knows. For the rest, I am sorry you are missing out.

iphone vs all othersBy Anonymous on May 11, 2009, 3:56 amI have used so many brands of phones especially from several vendors, SonyEricsson, Nokia, Palm, htc. First when I got iphone, it lacked some telephony functionalities in ver 2.2. Despite this fact, I can say that only iphone is the leading phone for business needs. Especially with the features OS 3.0. It is really great! The quality is excellent vs all other phones.

Dan Hesse could turn Sprint around, if he only daresBy glenny on May 7, 2009, 5:43 pmI am network consultant with 25 years experience supporting networks and email for multiple clients. Daily I hear from both management and users what they love an hate in their phones. While I have made great money supporting iPhones, it’s not really a great business phone. Palm appears to finally be on the right track with the Web OS, the big question is does Sprint have a clue. Dan Hesse sayes Sprint continues to lose millions of contracted customers, yet makes money with non contracted customers. Hint. We all hate long term contracts. If Sprint would sell the Pre for $200.00 with a prepaid $100.00 month simply everything plan, without the universally hated multi-year contract. All your former customers including myself would come back to Sprint, seize the opportunity, Dan it could be your last.

I hope it takes a BIG BITE out of Apples iPhoneBy Anonymous on April 30, 2009, 8:35 pmbecause, as usual, iPhone users think that Apple is the only manufacturer that can make a iPhone that people want. If the Pre turns out to be a better model, and lowers the cost to something a regular person can buy then I'll buy it.

Uh, sorry, the palm is smaller than the iPhoneBy Anonymous on April 28, 2009, 8:16 pmeven though most of the pics here make it look the other way around.

Lame.By Anonymous on April 21, 2009, 12:44 pm"Palm Pre vs. Apple iPhone: How they stack up" This is the worst "Comparison" article I've read in a long time. There is a HUGE lack of information here. Why even bother? Lame.

SlideshowBy Anonymous on April 17, 2009, 8:18 pmUseless and quite free of information. Good job on driving the traffic here with the implication that you had something useful to say in your slideshow though.

SorryBy Anonymous on April 15, 2009, 12:42 pmSory but this phone doesn't even come close to competing with the iphone sorry.

sprint really betting big time with the pre, but they didn't do By Anonymous on April 7, 2009, 4:04 amsprint really betting big time with the pre, but they didn't do so well with the instinct when spent $200 million on promoting it. Sprint is famous for spending big bucks on advertisements, but i seriously hope they will do well, at least folks at http://www.PalmPreForum.org spent sleepless nights try to find out the lastest and greatest info about the Pre!

I like my iPod touch and have gotten fairly good at typing on itBy Anonymous on April 3, 2009, 12:29 amI like my iPod touch and have gotten fairly good at typing on it, but a friend of mine turned it down as his business phone because of lack of a tactile interface. Yes, that's one of the points of the iPod and iPhone, but that's what he wanted. I like Apple products, but I don't agree with everything they do. There's plenty of room for competition, so bring it on Palm, Blackberry, and anyone else who wants to get in on the unnecessary brawl!

I don't get thisBy Anonymous on April 2, 2009, 9:07 pmHave of the scenarios says, "well ew don't know yet, so point goes to the iPhone". Huh, WTF? Since the only thing out is Palm's marketing hype, well, take it as it is. Then have of these questions would goto the Palm. If it doesn't live up to the hype, well, it will then die a quick death. Palm's is a veteran at this game, they know how to advertise, they know what hype can do to them if the phone doesn't live up to its expectations. If it's better than the iPhone is will be concluded within weeks after its out. Apple shouldn't get the same treatment, when the 3G came out and they had the firmware issues, it should have cost them the market. Instead, they threw millions into advertising and webzines like THIS and spread the hype to keep sales up--if Android was out, the iPhone would be dead by now.

iphone NOT a business phoneBy Anonymous on March 31, 2009, 1:13 amThe iphone is NOT a business phone!!! It looks great, plays great games, music and videos - but when I need to get to work, I put away the iphone and get out my old Palm Treo 700p. I don’t use it for much anymore as it crashes all the time and there is no fix coming, but when it comes to keeping track of my clients (contacts) and my calendar, it is great. iphone doesn’t even exist in the PIM arena - remember, Apple computers are not for business either, they are almost exclusively used by graphic artists and kids. If iphone had a decent calendar and a much much better contact management system, they would really have something. But when you realize how much pressure it took for them to even add cut and paste (remember Steve Jobs said we don’t need it) you realize this device is just for fun. Pal has always been able to do both well - they just couldn’t keep their OS from crashing. I wont be the first to buy the Pre but I sure hope it works as they have said so far – I will surely buy it if it does.

MistypeBy Anonymous on March 19, 2009, 9:49 amI believe the slideshow is supposed to say 8 Gb model and 16 Gb model when referring to the pricing of the iPhone. I doubt you could find an 8 Mb model and a 16 Mb model :)

awesome phone.By Anonymous on February 18, 2009, 7:41 pmI would be so pleased if people stopped claiming each new smartphone as an 'iPhone killer'. There are simply so many Apple zealots and poseurs out there that there's no chance that the iPhone will be 'killed' anytime soon. If ever. That phone had people lining up around the block for its release, people who had never used an iPhone, had no concept of its limitations, couldn't possibly know whether or not it could even receive a decent phone signal, but were prepared to camp out for days to lock themselves into a ridiculously long, restrictive, expensive contract with a carrier they didn't want to be with, all because they wanted the bragging rights to an 'Apple iPhone'. And history has proven two things. First that the iPhone was a roaring success. And secondly, that it was flawed in so many ways that if it had any other logo on it other than that Apple one, the 'faithfull' wouldn't have touched it with a 10 ft barge pole. But they shut off their cognitive reasoning and the rest is history. So, it's safe to say, when a product's time is right, then it will be a success, regardless of its faults. I expect the same thing to happen with the Pre. But at least the Pre should have a much less flawed launch than that piece of rubbish that was the original iPhone. And may Palm and the Pre prosper. By the looks of what I've seen so far, they truly deserve it. Hear that Apple? They deserve it. share your opinions at http://www.PalmPreForum.org

Device size PreBy Anonymous on February 12, 2009, 9:49 amYour pictures were using the wrong scale. The Pre is smaller than the iPhone (keybd closed). The Pre is not an iPhone killer, its the anti-iPhone. A great option for all those people who do not want an iPhone.

exclusive on sprintBy Anonymous on January 23, 2009, 10:26 amunless sprint can sell 1 million phones in six months all carries will be able to buy them but they are makeing a gsm phone for europe, a phoe carrier that sprint is in talking to buy or merge or somthing to increase they coverge ,probaly with a fee to us. But the iphone sold 1 million phones in 3 months some were ordered some were on layaway. I had 1 when i was with at&t .but i think they pre has that same shot since i already signed up to see when the phone is for sale, they say it will be out at sprint online and bestbuy online first besides palm.

8Mbyte and 16MbyteBy Anonymous on January 17, 2009, 12:45 pmAre those the new iPhone Nanos? Is this not a tech site? Who's drafting your descriptions? There's quite a difference between a Gb and Mb.

iphone-preBy Anonymous on January 14, 2009, 9:42 pmThe last stance be corrected as "Mobile manufacturers should think in terms of a user perspective approach" and the camera pixel i mentioned was about iphone.Their 2mp camera is low in terms of quality. am not supporting any manufacturer, we all want a good product.At least the consumers should get good third party applications from every source.

iphone-preBy Anonymous on January 14, 2009, 9:42 pmThe last stance be corrected as "Mobile manufacturers should think in terms of a user perspective approach" and the camera pixel i mentioned was about iphone.Their 2mp camera is low in terms of quality. am not supporting any manufacturer, we all want a good product.At least the consumers should get good third party applications from every source.

iphone-preBy Anonymous on January 14, 2009, 9:41 pmThe last stance be corrected as "Mobile manufacturers should think in terms of a user perspective approach" and the camera pixel i mentioned was about iphone.Their 2mp camera is low in terms of quality. am not supporting any manufacturer, we all want a good product.At least the consumers should get good third party applications from every source.

iphone-vs.preBy Anonymous on January 14, 2009, 9:26 pmI am an iphone user and i like my gadget, but in a world of constant improving i like my stuff to be technologically superior and less propreitory. But users like me will alienate from apple if they restrict third party application which are useful to customers like vdeo recording ability and so on.It's pity that they cannnot have copy and paste function enabled in their phone, Hope atlest these things will happen on the next update from apple . Good on pre that they think ahead with the multitasking and so on.Atleast they should have 3.2 mp camera. Mobile users have to think in terms f how average user will use the gadgets,

iphone-vs.preBy Anonymous on January 14, 2009, 9:26 pmI am an iphone user and i like my gadget, but in a world of constant improving i like my stuff to be technologically superior and less propreitory. But users like me will alienate from apple if they restrict third party application which are useful to customers like vdeo recording ability and so on.It's pity that they cannnot have copy and paste function enabled in their phone, Hope atlest these things will happen on the next update from apple . Good on pre that they think ahead with the multitasking and so on.Atleast they should have 3.2 mp camera. Mobile users have to think in terms f how average user will use the gadgets,

Love iphone hate appleBy Anonymous on January 14, 2009, 7:15 pmHEY APPLE GIVE US WHAT WE WANT NOT WHAT YOU THINK WE WANT I MIGHT EVEN DROP MA IPHONE 4 A PRE IF ITS MORE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY

Pre interestingBy Anonymous on January 12, 2009, 10:23 amMy son who works for Apple is crazy for the Pre. My Treo blew away the iPhone's camera feature and still does. iPhone=no video stinks! Clearly, Apple has lots of ground to make for lest I revert back to the new Palm and renew my Verizon contracts.

PreBy Anonymous on January 12, 2009, 9:48 amThe Pre is the first phone to make the iPhone look old and outdated!

Strategic shortcomings of Pre in the post-iPhone eraBy Anonymous on January 12, 2009, 3:04 am"Pre's introduction, website, technology packaging, industrial design, UI, product naming and positioning...down to the flow of its CES presentation were pointedly, but perhaps not surprisingly, Apple-like. Of all the current iPhone competitors, Pre clearly captures the "soul" of the iPhone as much as any product not-from-Cupertino can. Whatever Pre "borrows" from the iPhone, it does so not with the brazen indifference of recent iPhone-killers, but with care and purpose." However: "Palm is clearly late to iPhone's party. By the time the first Pre is sold, the iPhone will likely have 30 million users in 70+ countries, 15,000 apps, a huge developer and peripherals ecosystem, perhaps a third of the market share and 40% of smartphone revenues. And that's before the next generation iPhone device and OS are introduced." I explored Pre's chances in: Strategic shortcomings of Pre in the post-iPhone era

Palm, Open It Up!By Anonymous on January 12, 2009, 12:21 amIf Palm wants ubiquity, offer the Pre phone through Sprint, ATT, and Verizon for $199 (plus the carrier's contracts), and sell an unlocked version for $299-$399. That way, you get buzz and may disrupt the competition's (iPhone, Blackberry, WinMobile, Android, Symbian) sales. Otherwise, who's going to drop their carrier to go with Sprint (lousy data speed, customer service issues?)

the more i think about the pre vs the iphone the more i love theBy Anonymous on January 11, 2009, 11:26 pma list of things i like about the pre background operations turn by turn directions email attachments can be used as a mass storage device a better camera synergy programs are integrated with each other removable battery discrete notifications. Apple should have atleast come out with the push notification service. It was one of the main reasons I got an iphone. I trusted apple to do what they claimed to do, but alas they did and have not. I honestly hope the pre is actually a pretty good phone that can keep connected to the people in my life. After all, phones are communication devices not gaming devices. The better a phone is a keeping you connected to the world around, the closer it comes to perfection. Everything else like a media player, etc.. is extra.

Comment on relative screen qualityBy Anonymous on January 11, 2009, 6:53 pmFrom the smaller screen size despite an equal resolution, it is obvious that the Pre has a higher pixel density. Furthermore, knowing screen resolution and diagonal length allows us to solve a simple simultaneous equation, giving a pixel density of 186 pixels per inch on the Palm Pre.

Only Parker Brothers has a monopoly on MONOPOLYBy Anonymous on January 11, 2009, 3:41 pmCome on, people. One phone/PDA, one provider? Stop it, seriously! I want Verizon to provide wireless support on an Apple iPhone. Can I get that? No! Why not? How long will I have to wait? Who knows. It's OK. I can fume that long. Crap, I landed on Park Place and I don't have enough cash on hand to buy it—guess I'll keep renting until the economy shifts and the cell phone menu thaws to the point where the consumer can pick their own phone and plan. Until then, my money is mine. Get your own, suckers.

iDiotsBy Anonymous on January 10, 2009, 2:02 pmNever in my life will I buy anything by Apple - who wants to be associated with that smug batch of jerks? From the annoyingly named "genius bar" of unwashed wanna-be experts, to the misleading "I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC" commercials, and the "I'm so freaking impressed with myself" hoards of brainwashed iSlaves, there is nothing about the brand that is even remotely appealing. Palm makes a viable alternative "phone", so it is the default winner in this match-up.

This comparison has little credibilityBy Anonymous on January 10, 2009, 1:54 pm"We haven't got our hands on a Pre yet, so we can't evaluate the keyboard ergonomics." Wow. I wasted 10 minutes comparing my iPhone to a product by a reviewer who hasn't even held the product in his hand yet. That's like reading a movie review by someone who hasn't seen the film, but has read about it in the news and in blogs. How do you expect to provide accurate information to potential buyers this way? I suggest you don't publish unless you have something more valuable to say. iPhone user in Wisconsin

pre vs iphoneBy Anonymous on January 10, 2009, 12:33 pmTo bad just when pre is released iphone v3.0 will be coming out and it will make the pre = PREHISTORIC !!!! prediction 09 Palm files for bankruptcy dec 09 on flop of the pre !!!

Best effort yet...By Anonymous on January 10, 2009, 11:32 amas a competitor to the iPhone (from what I've seen). Having owned two Treos and switched to an iPhone on day one, I'm very pleased with what Apple has delivered, but welcome competition like Pre. I think they're on to something with the new OS...it looks like it may save a few steps. The keyboard is good for those who text a lot (I don't). Overall, I think Pre is one phone that is sure to keep Apple on its toes, and - keep in mind - I doubt Apple is resting on its laurels. Expect iChatAV, greatly improved battery life, Flash, and a few other surprises from Apple down the road...possible even a video touchscreen 'cradle' wherein the phone OS is taken to the big screen at home or office.

Is that sooooo different to make a purchase decision? good math,By Anonymous on January 10, 2009, 4:03 amIs that sooooo different to make a purchase decision? good math, bad brains.

Sounds like good vaporware so farBy Anonymous on January 10, 2009, 3:44 amSounds like an interesting phone. But it is just an announcement of something not yet available until (maybe) middle of 2009, from a company with a record of late deliveries on availability. By then, there will probably be AVAILABLE more android phones, and an improved iphone model. I like Palm, but the market is overcrowed and the Pre may be too little, too late.

Palm needs Verizon to succeedBy paul2007lopez on January 9, 2009, 9:44 pmThe approach with WebOS to rework Palm from the ground up is interesting. Of the total sales in December at my local AT&T store, 88% were iPhones. That's all handsets. Palm should try to position against Windows Mobile 6. RIMM is fighting Apple, Microsoft is getting ignored and sales reps are pushing the iPhone. Palm has a loyal base of users but it's no where near what it used to be many years ago. Paul Lopez

Worthy iPhone competitorBy Anonymous on January 9, 2009, 6:48 pmI recently moved from a tired Treo to an iPhone because of the lame browser and email clients on the PalmOS. My problem with the iPhone is that it's a great application device, but a lousy phone and PDA. It's hard to use one-handed, and the on-screen keyboard is much harder to use than the Treo's thumb-board. This seems to combine many of the advantages of the Treo (the thumb-board, one-handed operation, good form factor) with many of the advantages of the iPhone. Definite win, unless they really screwed things up. Too bad it won't be available until May, or I might consider sending back my iPhone (I'm within the 30 day grace period) and getting one.

and....By Anonymous on January 9, 2009, 6:27 pmit comes with a slide out keyboard. Frankly the i-phone gives up too much in order to be small. A little more girth in order to provide a tactile keyboard and removable storage would do the i-phone some good.

pres is 15% larger by volumeBy Anonymous on January 9, 2009, 4:20 pmcheck my math: iphone is 5.2 cu inches pre is 6 cu. inches .8/5.2=.15

Thanks for editorial commentBy Anonymous on January 9, 2009, 3:56 pm"Apple's corporate ethos is "we're cool and you're not, use the product and bask in the coolness." " Now why did you have to go and run a perfectly good news story with your editorial comments? Apple's and Palm's corporate attitude has jack to do with the capabilities of the various devices.

ResolutionBy Anonymous on January 9, 2009, 3:15 pmYou don't have to wait for Palm to tell you the screen resolution; you can calculate it. Assuming square pixels, the diagonal is (sqrt(320^2+480^2)) = about 577 pixel-widths. Divide that by 3.1 inches, and you get about 185 pixels per inch. The pixels may not actually be precisely square, but they'll be close. So the actual ppi may not be *precisely* 185, but it'll be something very close to that.