Sony debuts all-in-one portable drive

I'd like to know can I play my mp3's recorded on my DVD?

Segio, you need to read the article a little better.

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... can play [extra stuff deleted] MP3 or WAV files from a CD, DVD or Memory Stick.
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Will it play ogg files?

Will it use the USB storage interface so I can ues it from Linux? I'm not asking if it support Linux. I'm fairly sure the answer here will be "No.". I'm asking whether or not it uses the USB storage interface so I can use it under Linux whether it's 'supported' or not.

If ever I get a device like this, my absolute requirement is that it _must_ play ogg files.

What about a digital out port to get true Dolby Digital audio from DVD ?

It will play anything and everything. After playing 3 DVDs, it will be warm enough to cook breakfast. This device does it all.

can it record audio, or video straight to cd-r?

Will it play OGG files? (WMA and MP3 just aren't good enough unless you use extremely high bitrates)

Sergio, read the damn article again!!!!!!

In the article, "can play standard audio CDs, and MP3 or WAV files from a CD, DVD or Memory Stick"

By the wording I take it to mean that it can play mp3's from DVD.

In the article, "can play standard audio CDs, and MP3 or WAV files from a CD, DVD or Memory Stick"

By the wording I take it to mean that it can play mp3's from DVD.

The only thing that would make me buy this (or any other data-playing device) is if it supported OGG format.
My entire collection ( around 8 gig of CD's that I own) has been recorded in ogg format. I'm in the market for this sort of device (and a car version) but I wont purchase until ogg is supported.

Ditto on the ogg. I'm (tortuously, slowly, painstakingly) re-encoding all my CD's to ogg and wiping my MP3's.

Ditto on the ogg. I'm (tortuously, slowly, painstakingly) re-encoding all my CD's to ogg and wiping my MP3's.

I want DVD video output and halftransparent goggles and a volume controler for the left pinky. for use in the car...

I'm looking for something like this device, but since it doesn't play ogg, i'll wait a bit longer.

You ogg users really crack me up. You intentionally rip all of your CDs into an incompatible format, then bitch that it's incompatible!!!

Sweet. Throw in some ogg, Sony, and I'm sold. But not until then ...

Its nice, but I won't buy it unless it supports ogg.

Sounds like a great device; too bad it doesn't support Ogg though; open formats are so much better (intrinsically) than closed ones. I'm sure Sony's allowed themselves firmware updates, so maybe its reprogrammable for Ogg format ...

but does it play ogg? that's what i wanted to know.

No ogg, no go.

Will it play my ogg files from DVD?

I'm in agreement about ogg encoding. I've just ripped all my cd's to ogg, and I'm certainly not going through that again! If sony is trying to go for the 'geek' culture that is most likely to pick up something new like this, ogg support is almost a must.

Jerry

You Ogg users really crack me up.. you rip to a incompatible format and then bitch about.. wait a minute, you mean that's how consumers get to voice an opinion on what functions products can perform? Wow.. Brock Landers get a voice and stop whining about how we should all just get in line with the everyone else

Why not add another whining post:

"I won't buy it unless supports OGG!!!!!!"

hey... be happy it plays all the formats it does.. and performs all the functions it does... why must you people always be so ungratefull and complain about everything... i think its a wonderful device... GO SONY GO!!!

I'm glad this device doesn't support OGG. I wouldn't buy it if it did.

Does it play ogg?

What's ogg?

All my music is in ogg, does it play 45rpm vynil?

OGG format playback is a must! I back everything up using OGG so I can have a cheap jukebox. A OGG DVD/CD-ROM player for less money would have me interested. The MP3 CDROM player I have available to use is good enough for now. :)

When it ships we'll get to see what sort
of new copy protection scheme they've
added this time. Sony always has these
great products that end up being nearly
useless for what you REALLY want to do,
because of their restrictions!

OGG I WANT OGG!!

"You ogg users really crack me up. You intentionally rip all of your CDs into an incompatible format, then bitch that it's incompatible!!!"

You MP3 users really crack me up. You intentionally rip all of your CDs to a format the computer nerds made popular LONG AGO, then bitch when we're trying to help you by applying consumer pressure for a newer, better, industry-standard.

On a related note, I'm not buying another portable music player until it supports ogg-vorbis. Hope Sony's got plans for firmware updates.

i'm not quite sure if it plays OGG-files..!

would be bad if it doesn't... :)

did i say OGG? well, OGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGG
OGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGGOGG
OGG

OGG!... eeeeh, BYE!
;)

Can it make me a decent cup of coffee? When it can make a decent cup of coffee without messing it up, then I'll tell it I love you.

"Technology." More like the fake lies of a crazy monster.

Where's my coffee.

mmm, anyone figured out if this plays ogg? if it does, i'll buy one today

No ogg support? Forget it.

For all the mp3 advocates, please see:
http://www.vorbis.com/

to understand why, like most people here, are unimpressed with this device - it lacks .ogg support...

For all the mp3 advocates, please see:
http://www.vorbis.com/

to understand why, like most people here, are unimpressed with this device - it lacks .ogg support...

>> You ogg users really crack me up. You intentionally rip all of your CDs into an incompatible format, then bitch that it's incompatible!!! <<

Everyone lay off. Go look "incompatible" up in the dictionary! It means "freely available, un-patented, high quality compression codec." This poster knows exactly what "incompatible" means that's why he's saying it.

"Incompatible" also means that it wouldn't cost Sony a dime to implement OGG. No royalties per unit to Fraunhauffer, Microsoft, the RIAA or anyone else.

You might notice that the device doesn't claim to support Microsoft's WMA. Weird, huh? WMA does produce better sound the MP3, as does OGG. You might even think that Sony was trying to limit the potential quality of the unit in order to make sure that they don't eat into their own recording labels... *conspiracy theories abound*

I want OGG X-(

What about ogg's? I like ogg's.

I am a representative of Sony. We will not put OGG on this device. No OGG for you!

No OGG!?!? Someday, someone is going to figure out that there is a demand for ogg-vorbis support and that person is going to make a killing. I'll wait for my ogg!

Its a well spoken point about OGG support, but its also possibly an example of how good this thing seems. Its unlikey sony will add support, remember though there are currently NO walkman style devices that support it, (though various companies like i-river are working on compatibility.) You can fit ~70 albums on each disc burnt in a DVD writer...hopefully this release from a major retailer will convince others to bring similiar products to market...and you can bet many of them WILL have OGG support.

OGG(vorbis) [homepage : www.xiph.org] : An open (free to use, encode with, develop), high quality, compressed audio format, providing better quality audio at smaller file sizes than MP3. (Search google for comparisions to MP3 and other formats with something like : blind OGG tests)

No OGG, no Sony

Does it play POGGs? I ain't buyin one unless I know it can't take my slammer.

"i'm not going to buy one until it supports OGG, LP, DAT, 8-track, Betamax and rattles like a tambourine when i shake it..."

By the time they get round to releasing a device that DOES support everything you all want, they'll be 20 other formats around which it won't, and then you'll all moan it doesn't support them either. Some people are never happy...

WAHHHH WAHHH FUCKING WAHHHH. I WANT OGG, IM GAY. I CANT HAVE IT CAUSE IM FUCKING RETARDED.

Did someone say something about OGGS?

I'd like one with Ogg please.

If you have pics in a memory stick, can you see them in the tv without a computer???

I am Ogg. Gimme me.

Ogg Vorbis requires an amount of CPU time currently unavailable in most portable products. So don't blame the mfg. for lack of insight and/or laziness to implement; they have to market a device within a certain price range and with currently available hardware.

I won't buy it unless it supports OGG ... actually even if it did I wouldn't buy it 'cuz I think capitalism is EVIL and everything should be FREE!

And don't give me that crap about "industry standards." I'm way too l33t to stoop to using some crappy format just because everyone else does.

I know EVERYTHING and MY WAY is SUPERIOR!!!

Just imagine a beowulf cluster of these!

I like kellOGGs, especially corn flakes. Can it play those? Boo hoo! I ripped all my CDs to corn flakes, and now my cereal bowl will only accept Granola.
Seriously...
Is Sony going to make you re-rip your MP3s to their stupid ATRAC format again?
Now back to the rant:
OGG people tend to be Linux and/or Apple idiots that need to feel that they are "free thinkers" and "outside of the box", when in reality they're only accepting the mainstream alternatives so they can bitch about nobody understanding them. In reality, if they were really into better sound quality they would be walking around trailing rack mount systems in little red wagons. Stop whining about being different when it was your choice to be so in the first place.
Now I have to go find a DVD player that will play my DivX CDs.

yo! ogg mads ... i heard it was for the retard at mind to listen songs in ogg ...

anyway i an't buying one b'coz

1/1001 - it doesn't say whether it plays VCD
2/1001 - it doesn't say whether it plays VCD on TV
...
...
1001/1001 - i an't got the monieeeeeeeee

go suck u'r thumb somewhere else !!!
and don't mod my post to remove the 1001 resons for not buying this pathetic super ungeeky trash can ..

> OGG people tend to be Linux and/or Apple idiots
> that need to feel that they are "free thinkers" and
> "outside of the box", when in reality they're only
> accepting the mainstream alternatives so they can
> bitch about nobody understanding them.

Yeah... you're probably right about some Linux newbies, but before you make such sweeping comments about people you know nothing about, you should really give Linux (or any other OS but Windows for that matter) a try. I know you won't though, because you are a sheep (or you can't do much more on a computer than push pretty buttons). You are happy to use whatever came on your computer when you bought it, even if it crashes, or it's insecure, or by using it you've given a corporation access to do what they want with your machine.

You really should stick with the hurd, it's safer there.

- Linux Idiot

what does it taste like?

>you are a sheep (or you can't do much more on a
>computer than push pretty buttons). You are
>happy to use whatever came on your computer
>when you bought it, even if it crashes, or it's
>insecure, or by using it you've given a
>corporation access to do what they want with
>your machine.
>
>You really should stick with the hurd, it's safer there.

Amen, my geeky brother! Down with the ignorant conformists! We geeks will RULE THE WORLD (in a Walter Mitty sort of way) with our SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE!!

Ahh, college kids. Wait until you get out in the real world. You'll find that around the same time that you give up Linux you'll discover the joys of women.
Don't be afraid of the corporations! Embrace them and subvert them from the inside!
I HAVE used Linux for years - right now it's delegated to running MP3s on my PS2. Not friggin' OGGs, mind you, because I actually have friends that don't talk Geek.
BTW, Be was a better OS anyway.

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What? No ogg? But but but all of that music on my hard drive is...well.. its mp3. And all of the tools I have are...well...for mp3s. Oh I know! I can download oggs! Oh wait, no. Most people have mp3s. Hmph. I simply can't figure out why this thing doesn't support Ogg! Oh well, back to listening to my MP3s.

Looks like Sony has ogg on its face.....

Sounds good.. but I mean, what good is a "portable device" that limits you to a geographical area?.. (read Regional Encoding on DVDs). If it had that little thing removed, I would purchase one in a second. But for a road-warrior its useless.. (and 1.5 hours playing a DVD?. I mean come on, I get 2.5 on my panasonic DVD player on best power mode)

And the lack of ogg support (not critical, but I would like to be able to play more than one good format (mp3), and one lousy (WMA) format.

I prefer my version of the same. It can play DVDs, too, on its built-in screen. Granted, a TiBook IS a bit larger and heavier and rather more expensive...

"what rolls down the stair alone or in pairs
rolls over your neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack and fits on your back?
It's Ogg, Ogg, Ogg!

It's Ogg, Ogg, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
It's Ogg, Ogg, it's better than bad, it's good!
Everyone wants a Ogg! You're gonna love it, Ogg!
Come on and get your Ogg! Everyone needs a Ogg!"

You bunch of complainers.
Who cares about what formats it will or won't play when it's made by the worldwide leader in planned obsolescence? I've had lots of Sony products, and they never last. In particular, their portable devices are only portable if you never jog with them, drop them, get them the least bit wet, etc. Ever have a pair of their (non-bud) earphones that lasted? I doubt it.

Come on Guys, let's think about it. I personally love .ogg, but who the hell cares? I'm starting to think that this is more of a battle over who's the biggest middle schooler than over what format is better. One, if it doesn't have what you want, don't fucking buy it. If it does, throw your wallet at it. Reguardless, this entire article makes me feel as though a Koala Bear climbed up my spine and crapped a rainbow in my brain! Until you feel like that, quit fucking bitching.

No ogg? No thanks.

You OGG idiots. I bet less than half of you people saying "no ogg, no go" would be buying this if it had OGG support.

It's really easy to say you would buy a product if it had xxx, but buying it when it does is another matter entirely.

Yeah, I'd buy that Boxster if I could put my roof rack on it.

Dorks.

Wow, there sure alot of people in here complaining about this thing. If you dont like it then DONT BUY IT. By the way, for you linux folks, drop the whole superiority attitude, its people like you that totally misrepresent linux users as a bunch of geeky kids who hate anyone thats ever worked on a windows machine. By the way, ive seen distros of linux that are ALOT more gay than windows could ever be DEAL WITH IT

If you want ogg, you make one that plays ogg.

And as for the post much earlier on about sony's stuff not lasting, ive got a reasonably flash sony discman and let me tell you it takes an absolute hammering and doesnt miss a beat. No skips, the audio sounds great and it lasts 32 hours on a set of recharables.

no OGG?!?! then i won't buy it! =p!
no but seriously! where's the OGG?!

Does it come in any other colors? That is SO going to clash with my new sweater (fogg blue).

OGG is the only way. Forget about the useless mp3 players people.

>> Just imagine a beowulf cluster of these!
>>
>> Posted by: elfefarci on October 23, 2002 12:29 PM

haahahahaahhhhaahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahaah

(I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm...) God, I remember what it was like to be a geek and NOT be ashamed...

I like OGG but don't use it nor do I care to until you knobs quit bitching on forums and put some hours into GROWING UP and LEARNING TO CODE and make some useful apps and libraries that utilize OGG (and no, I don't mean a mIRC script to announce the song titles in my nifty OGG player). Hell, get off your lazy asses and put some hours into making ANYTHING useful to promote OSS rather than ... well... reading this post for example...

Bout time for some EGG OGG ain't it??

I'm pretty sure there's a OGG connector on there - yep - it sure looks like it... I think you can hook it right up to yer OGG screen. I'm also going to try and hook it up to my toaster. MMmmm..... Toast... TOAST! Warm 'n crisp. Can't beat that... Did you know that you can encode directly to toast? I did!

SJ!

I AM DISGUSTED

FOR GOD'S SAKE YOU WANKERS!

No one give a toss about ogg. It may be superior to MP3 for many reasons, but that doesn't mean that companies like Sony *have* to implement it.

Go and enjoy your superior compressesion somewhere else.

MP3 is just fine for the masses. Plenty of people like WMA, but not every pocket player supports it.

It doesn't say anything explicitly about playing DVD movies on the go. Is it audio-only when disconnected from the PC?

I won't buy it unless everyone at Ogg Hall gets one first.

http://www.housing.wisc.edu/ogg/main.html

To dragonflea -- It didn't specifically say, but one would assume that when the device is connected to the PC, you would still be able to play audio CDs on it, just like any other external CD drive.

You probably wouldn't be able to play DVDs on the go because there's no screen attached to watch the movie (I don't think there's video jacks on it where you could hook it up to a TV).

Does it have a 'light' and a 'dark' setting? Because i like my toast to be all burny around the edges.

Yes, Ogg, ok, but can you plug it into your TV set and then watch DVDs?

We want OGG! We want OGG! We want OGG! Boycott SONY until they get the picture; we want OGG!

Did anyone find out if it will play DVD directly to a TV? Is there a USB to Video out solution?

For MP3s stored on a DVD as data files ...

Can anyone let me know roughly how long you have to wait after placing a DVD in the unit until you can play music (playlist or a mp3)?

(I'm hoping it doesn't have to build an index of every file on the DVD before you can play music).

kind rgds all,
GM Arts

So anyone figure out if this thing plays oggs?

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